Arizona Chickens

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Stupid newbie question: why is it bad to take your roosters to The Stock Shop (which I assume is a feed store)?

Not BAD, but I have several reasons for having reservations.


In general: I do not sell roosters (or any live birds for that matter). I have had some NASTY diseases come through and kill big chunks of my flock. Last Aug-Oct, I lost ~50 birds; all of my next generation. Since chickens are often "carriers" once they get better, even quarantining birds can be pointless. I usually process all roosters, and will only give live birds to certain flocks- usually ones I have mixed birds with before. USUALLY, I have a closed flock--but occasionally will bring birds in. Almost never out.

(chicks under a week are differnt, since they are usually kept in the house)

HOWERVER- The roos I took had been vaccinated for EVERYTHING under the sun, were all healthy, were lice free, and been in a seperate grow-out pen functioning as a bachelor pad since having been moved from the brooder.


Also, not all feed stores are created equal. A few of us have had issues before. The Stock Shop (90% of time) has been pretty solid in how they maintain their animals. Other feed stores don't turn over roos fast enough, put them in teeny weeny cages, charge too much and never sell them, have picking and disease issues, etc.


ETA: IN SHORT-- I feel that "dumping" birds at the feed store is irresponsible, especially if I MARGINALLY suspect they have been exposed to any diseases. I think it is my responsibility as the birds' owner to protect other BY chicken owners from possible contamination, if at all possible.

It also makes me uncomfortable, as I do not know what fate will befall them. That is: I don't know if they will be abused, purchased for fighting, neglected, etc. I would much rather process my roos then possibly leave them open to neglect or mistreatment. When I process my birds, I know they have been spoiled rotten lap roosters from hatch until that last kiss goodbye.

Happy Food!

That was so well said Laree. As you know, I feel the same way when it comes to roos and feed stores, but I buy my feed at the Feed Barn up north and quite often see caged birds with repiratory illnesses and knew I couldn't drop off my roo there and as sad as I was, I asked your hubby to process my roo. I was really appreciative of it. Still something I need/want to learn if I am going to continue to hatch out chicks, feel like I need to be responsible for those roos. Sort of like Bob Barker saying,"Control the pet population. Have you pets spayed or neutered." Control the roo population!
 
Okay, thanks for that. It is certainly something to consider. At my feed store, the cages are always very clean and I always go around and look at each and every animal, except for the feeder rats because they give me the heebee jeebees. I have never seen a sick animal or dirty cage. Of course, I know that not all sick animals exhibit symptoms. I took my silkie roo there, but I figured someone would have to be an idiot to fight him. I recently took back 3 9wk old boys and traded them for what I hope are pullets. I guess there is no telling what will become of them. We have not vaccinated, and I am really torn about that. It helps that there are none available to me. I know I should vaccinate for something, but I don't want all of those chemicals in our eggs. My kids get no vax until they are 2, and then I only allow one a year. I know they are helpful, but sometimes the risk of the vax are worse than the risk of disease. Also, I have no idea how to process roos, and couldn't do it myself. I know, I know. Food doesn't come from a grocery store. I respect the process and can accept it. I wouldn't even have a problem raising animals for food, but I just can't kill stuff. I tell my husband that is why I married him. We had a hen once that was in horrible shape. Her innards were hanging out and she was bleeding and weak. Not only could I not take care of it, I had to take the kids and leave the house while my husband did it. I started working at a vet clinic when I was 12, and continued until I was 19. In all that time, I still couldn't handle putting animals down. BIGGEST SISSY EVER!!! So, I suppose I should stop taking them to the feed store, but what should I do with my roos? BTW, my hubby says he won't even learn to process roos, but will give me the $5 to get one at Safeway. HA!

Sonoran, that is so funny about your son. What a smart teacher!
 
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The reason why my DH is getting into this chicken thing so much is because of all these "little" projects. He now wants to build a chicken plucker if I can get him a 3/4 HP motor. That plucker plucks chickens in 15 seconds flat (check out various U-tube videos). That's what you need! Easy as pie
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. Maybe there will even be a DH project building support group...
 
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The reason why my DH is getting into this chicken thing so much is because of all these "little" projects. He now wants to build a chicken plucker if I can get him a 3/4 HP motor. That plucker plucks chickens in 15 seconds flat (check out various U-tube videos). That's what you need! Easy as pie
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. Maybe there will even be a DH project building support group...

It all sounds great unless your the Guy in the relationship. We don't have the advantage you ladies have. We can't just smile and bat those beautiful eye and say "Dear, you know What I really need you to build me". LOL yes, after 18 years of marriage she still has me wrapped around her finger. LOL
 
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Yes, I have six more pullets from that hatch. They're roosting separately from the main population, under a creosote bush, but if I lose another one I'll secure them in the run at night. I knew we had small owls around, and are very happy to have them control mice, but I thought the pullets were big enough (8 weeks old) to no longer qualify as owl food.

So, I hope the owl enjoyed his fresh chicken dinner, but I wish I could've offered a roo instead
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MMMM I think chickens are pretty dumb in the food department - if it looks interesting it's down the hatch before they have time to register they ate something. Mine ate foam that had come out of a pool lounge - one of those coated foam lounges, it had cracked and foam came out. I raked and picked the area over oh so carefully before we got the chickens. Somehow they find pieces buried in the gravel and I have to chase them down and pull it out of their beaks so they don't eat it. I just about died one day when Elvis found a piece as big as his head and ate it before I could grab him! I was sure he was going to die from it. Same things with dried leaves that blow into their area - run after them and down the hatch. So, my 2 cents is they would eat something poisonous. I bet they would even eat an oleander leaf before they noticed how bad it tastes. Then probably they wouldn't ever eat another, but who knows if they would live through eating one leaf.

My flock devoured a good portion of styrofoam (compressed beads) from an old mobile home door I had on the salvage pile... no losses, fortunately.

We have lots of creosote bushes in our yard. The birds will pick at flowers from time to time, but leave the leaves alone and definitely don't strip them. Rosemary is another good desert-friendly plant they (surprisingly) leave alone.
 

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