Arizona Chickens

[Sonoran Silkies]

Any suggestions on a vet? Ours is hard to get into day of, unless it is the vet that is rude. We need back up..we want to back
up yesterday.. Not happy..

Dr Burke at Cornerstone in Gilbert. It's worth the drive. He has chickens of his own

What happened yesterday?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Personally I would never try the hold upside down and massage it out. WAY too easy to aspirate them. Surgery to open and clear their crop is safer--even if you do it at home.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Most vets will understand this. Our cat/dog vet is Dr Farrar at Countryside Animal Hospital--Rural & Warner.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: It's nice to know of a backup. A few months ago I used Arizona Exotic Animal Clinic in Mesa and was not happy. They wanted me to spend many hundreds that I did not think were needed. All I needed for my duck were prescription meds. And they charged me over twice what Safeway charged for refills.

 

[City farm]

I have very little to entertain kids, it depend on the kid, I do not have cable, and my XBox Controller has only one battery, and lasts about 4 or 5 minutes. And most of all we are going to be killing chickens and dressing them. It all depends on the kid. They are welcome, we will manage.

Any suggestions on a vet? Ours is hard to get into day of, unless it is the vet that is rude. We need back up..we want to back

up yesterday.. Not happy..

Dr Burke at Cornerstone in Gilbert.  It's worth the drive.  He has chickens of his own

What happened yesterday?

If I do bring our boys they will not be on your Xbox.. This is a lesson for them.. Thank you for opening up your home girl...

Sonoran, we rescued 2 German Shepards... The boy.. 4 years. I had our friend from Abbotts G.S. look at both for their overall
hips & what not.. His were bad, which was ok with us.. Along with his limp.. Which we thought at time of adoption was from the
recent surgery.. He was neutered about a week before from we took him home.. Where they put the needle in was the leg he
was limping on.. Again no big deal. But he had Diarreha & again the guy said they eat whatever is donated.. Well,,, we separated
him from the other dog to make sure he was eating.. Rice, banana, yogurt, chicken. We have been doing whatever we can for him, but we
think he was really sick when we got him.. He is on 2 antibiotics & 3 other stuff.. don't think he is going to make it.. Bless his heart..
It was not cancer, but we have a 19 plus year old dog.. That is not doing good..The vet tech said that sometimes the doctor want to
do a examination & charge us.. I was like whatever.. When a dog is suffering and there is nothing you can do why put them threw all
of the poking & what not.. Our regular vet does not have same day appointments, this other place could get us in ASAP so we took
it.. He went down hill so fast I could not wait.. We had another 19 year old dog that we tried to take to our regular vet the day she had
a stroke. They had no appointment for her.. So we are just needing a vet that if we need to go in at a moments notice, without making it
more stressful that would be nice.. The resue group probably did not know he was that sick either.. We hope he does better in the next
few days.. There is more to the story, ask me when I see you..

 

[LadyKotaDoria]

it is, in my mind great for kids to participate in knowing that life is sacred, and it is a life that gives us life. My Brother-in-law is upset about it. He eats meat, but told me he is not about to kill a cow for meat. That's fine with me, become a vegetarian. I give thanks to the animal that died, and apologize that they could not have had a better life and respected when alive. As for the chickens on the 9-1, I shall give thanks for their life, but I will not have to apologize to them. I know they had a good life and were give respect while alive.

There has been some confusion on Directions

I gave limited access highway routing. The belt-line or Loop 101 is a suggestion. You have a lot of ways to get here. Grand Ave is the road I use the most, if you go North on Grand Ave, exit on Northern, go West on Northern to 103rd Ave. go North to Olive.

The yellow is the loop. Any question PM me. If you tell me were you live I can give you better directions, instead of general direction. The one size fits all.

I spent a lot of years on the road averaging 130,000 miles in a year. Routing is not really that easy. Dispatchers will give directions to drivers, but I always check, it is not uncommon to have out dated ore just plan bad directions. I have no idea were everyone is coming from.


PS: I voted

 

[countrygirl74]

Edit: oh, it looks like we can only have up to 4 chickens in Chino Valley. Other than that, it looked lovely!!

I know folks that are there that have many, many more. Is it a zoning issue? HOA issue?

My 12 little ones have arrived. Took right to the feed and water. My 2 year old is taking his nap and will be so excited when he wakes up, he's been saying "baby chits" all week.

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Congrats! Getting new babies is always so much fun!

Good morning peoples! Been super busy at work, long story and sad. Besides all that, my flock is doing great. We get between 6-9 eggs everyday. One of the neighbors has become our egg broker. She buys them up and sells them to her friends. lol . I'm still getting some brewing done. I have a Farmhouse Rye, Pumpkin Ale and Imperial Porter all fermenting as well as a Saison and Irish Stout bottled up and lets not forget the Blonde, IPA and English Ale I have kegged.
Almost lost one of the girls the other day when it was super hot. Daughter came home from school and found her layin there kind of lethargic. She scooped her up and dunked her in some water, then put ice in their wading dish, gave them frozen grapes and kicked on the mister. By the time I got home, everyone was fine. I was proud of my daughter for taking care of the situation before she even called me.
Just wanted to check in and say hi!

What a good girl!! My daughter is wonderful like that too - she took frozen 2-liter bottles out the other day while I was gone because she noticed that their water was hot and they didn't seem to want to drink much of it. She cooled it down by dropping the "ice" in and they all went to drinking.

HELP!

Checked the girls this a.m. and my Polish seems to be having trouble walking. She's not squatting or bowing but just sitting on the ground and when she moves it seems like she's crawling. She hasn't laid an egg in a few days, nothing unusual, but she seems distressed. The other girls are just fine and my makeshift swamp cooler is keeping the temp in the coop cool enough that they don't pant, although she is now. I examined her but found no wounds, bleeding or anything else, she didn't squawk when I picked her up, like if I touched a sore spot.
Could she be egg bound?
Is there something I can check for?

I'd hate to lose her, she's a beauty. Any ideas?

When I had a chicken do that (some squatting, some crawling, and also just almost falling over), she was having issues with an egg. I brought her in and soaked her in a warm bath, gently massaging her "abdomen". After I took her out and set her on a towel, she dropped a yolk and 3/4 of a softshell. She was still acting like there was an issue and I thought she should still have the other 1/4 missing softshell somewhere, so I put her back in the warm water soak and out came another whole yolk and the rest of the softshell. She hasn't ever had another issue since, but she does tend to lay double-yolkers once in a while.

 

[countrygirl74]

For whoever it was that was having crop issues....this is for sour crop, not impacted crop. Is the crop squishy or hard?? I have not personally had to deal with any crop issues yet, but these methods below are by 3 different people who have and what worked for them.

Sour Crop, or Candidiasis, is caused by an overgrowth of candida albicans. Simply put, it is a yeast infection inside the bird’s crop. It causes the mucus membranes within the crop to swell giving the bird the appearance of having something the size of an apple lodged in its neck. This overgrowth of yeast can also create lesions in the crop, esophagus and mouth.
In a true case of sour crop, the swollen area will feel squishy and a bad smell can be detected from the beak when pressure is applied to the crop. If the crop is hard, it may be an impacted crop and not sour crop, so please be sure to inspect the crop area thoroughly before treating.

Method 1:

• Withhold water for the first 12 hours
• Withhold food for 24 hours
• After the first 12 hours, give only clear, clean water with no additives
• At this point I release the bird but I continue observation

If the crop does not empty after the first 24 hours:

• I give the bird only clean water and try to get the crop empty to start treatment
• Do not feed the bird any solid food at all until the crop is empty. If it is not empty there is a reason. Adding more volume (food) is not going to help
• Use a dropper to give olive or coconut oil
• Massage the crop

If the crop swells up again

• Confine the bird to the coop
• I again withhold water for 12 hours and food for 24 hours - you need that crop emptied for treatment to work.
• I massage the crop if it feels hard and impacted. If it is squishy I do a little massaging to get things moving.

After the crop empties:

• I feed them eggs with a tablespoon of plain yogurt. I just smash the whole egg… shells and all - and stir in the yogurt.
• I observe for the next 24 hours.
• They are offered plain fresh water at all times.
• After 24 hours, if the crop has emptied, I add plain grain to the eggs.
• I observe for another 24 hours.

I do not do much messing with sour crop. Sometimes they get something lodged in there that needs time to get out. I can usually feel it from the outside and massage it out.

If you are sure it is sour crop, there are many things that can be done to treat this kind of thrush naturally. The key to curing thrush naturally and permanently is to kill the yeast with natural means and also to cure the underlying deficiency or imbalance that allowed the yeast to grow out of control in the first place. You treat all you want, but if the bird is to get better it is imperative to find the core of the issue.

I offer Oregano, tea tree oil, lavender, and a few cloves to all my birds regularly. Usually this time of year birds develop sour crop from over eating all the lush greens they didn’t have over the winter. I have two that are pooping pure green from the wild strawberries and blossoms. They come in at night and look like they are going to blow up. (They look normal by morning, so I know it’s not a thrush issue.)

I have culled one bird for a chronic crop problem. She just loved to eat the oddest things. I had cut up old pie tins and put them in my garden to deter birds and bunnies, and she loved to eat them. Loved shiny things. Found all my husband’s lost nails, nuts and bolts. She was very odd. If she came across a nail head in a door jam or window, she would spend hours trying to get it out.

Method 2:
Cut out all ACV
Give yoghurt with probiotics
Eggs are also good
No sugar at all - so no fruits, breads, etc.
Massage crop
When I first noticed that my hen Ruby had Sour Crop, she was bending over to eat and regurgitating. That stuff STANK. Like spoiled milk. Her crop was huge. I took her off food and offered her only water while I did some research. I then bought some plain, sugar free, yoghurt and offered it to her with eggs. She gobbled it up. I massaged her crop twice a day and continued to offer her yoghurt in addition to their regular feed for a week. No treats. She was better after a few days and back to normal after a week.

Method 3:
The one thing that I found after searching the internet was Red Wine... You MUST withhold food or grain based food - it’s a yeast infection and sugars feed yeast. Give the chicken a dropper full of Red Wine and wait. Massage the crop in a downward motion. Check the chicken later and if it is not gone give them more Red wine and some plain, organic yogurt. The chicken should be cured in 12-24 hours.
Another chicken owner had the same problem and I told her about the wine. At first she was skeptical but emailed the next day say it was a miracle! So that’s my 2 cents....
*Please note – Be cautious when administering liquids and oils by syringe or dropper as you do not want your bird to aspirate the liquid into the lungs.

 

[Fuzzybird]

Quote: Demosthine, I would take both those silkies!

 

[mckenzy]

Hiding in the bushes.

Eating some fruit.