Arizona Chickens

BIRD netting: my bird netting I not tight, as of yeti have not caught anything. There is all kinds. The netting I got for my chick pen is the type I could see doves getting caught in, a 1" net, diamon shape. The black netting is square and 1/2". It is 14'X 200', cutting to length. I am using PVC at the bottom, lefting it to go under. My girls have figured it out, I have the East side left to do. It is hard on handed, it is really a 2 man job. The low beds I drap it over the frame. The other T - Frame I think I will be planting starters, I will still have to put the netting up. My girls will eat it. On the West T-Frame right now it is my ornge trills strings that mess them up. They can not get through. I have along way to go. West Bed 1 is 1/2 planted, 10' mix Tomato's, 10' Kentucky Pole bean, 10' Blackeye peas. West Bed 2, collards, mustard, turn up greens, Swiss Charr, Bell Peppers, mixed hurbs, Missolanious greens. I have yet to plant Brussels Sprouts and my first planting of broccoli. I plan on 4 planting s 3 weeks apart. Then 15'x2' my Salad plants, mixed including Arugula. Beets, Cucumber, Winter Squash, turnips, 5 different onions (long growing 1 almost a year). Carets, radishes, Zucchini, Eggplant, Shanghai cabbage, Okra, Artichoke, Bok choy, Snow peas, and a few more I can not think of right now, have to look at my list. This summer I hope to have shade cloth over my garden and a mister when it is over 110. I will be planting corn, melons, summer squash, and try to grow other veggies that hate the heat. I hope to fix up the grow out pen for chicken greens garden at some point. I had it nice once. . . It took them a few hours to have nothing left, they loved it. I only have 4 beds, 4'x30', nice size, but I have more vegetables then space, I want variety. Last year to many of limited number. Pluse it was way to expensive.

It was casting me $3X.XX a week to feed it. I am putting dirt in my beds, in a few years it will no longer be a growing medium, but compost, dirt, and gaged fertilizer. I aways feed my plants weekly durning most of their production, but not like that. Contrary to what the preppers that are doing this system, it is reliant on society as it is, not sustainab. Some one mentioned rabbits, a good idea, but you can not sustain then in the low desrt area's. I think if you had Jack Rabits you could. Chickens could survive with minimal supplements. As for how many chickens an acre could support I do not know, nor do I hope I will need to know. I wish I could be prepared for at lest 1 year if there was a disaster. But reality is being prepared for a few weeks and months at best, for me.

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On a depressing,personal problem. My Sister has always had fear of germs, ever sence high school biology. When I grow hydra on lettuce, I remember she freaked out, when I told her I hip just put a leaf of lettuce in water, they were on it to begin with. I am partly at fault. :rolleyes: I was a true little sister, I enjoyed up setting her with gross things, bugs in our food. I eat apples with worms in them, making sure she saw it, (and didn't see me spit it out). She didn't like touching anything dead, like chicken meat, or any raw meat. I had no problem. Maybe I deserve being the disease person in the family? Then there is my older brother! He freaks her out because he dose not always wash his hands before eating, and will eat foods unwashed. My brother spends about 3 months a year over seas, eating all kinds of foods, like. In Bizarre Food, he told her he has to ingest germs or he is afraid he would die because of his travels. He needs his body defenses to be built up. I agree with him, I was surprised when I found out he can drink the water in country's we are wormed not to. He hasn't had Dysentery for over 30 years. :hugs That's my brother....... Poor sister.

(My sister washes ALL vegetables twice, first in Vinegar and a lot of salt (1/2 - 1 cup), then with just salt (about 1 cup), then rinse very will. I graze in my garden as I check it out. If I'm watering it I'd rinsed in my mind, a few bug eggs do not change the taste, besides bugs are 60% protein, the eggs might be fatty.

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Demosthine your canning sounds fabulous. It is so much better for you, usually not cheaper, that is a real plus. :thumbsup
 
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well this seems to be a subject i can participate in and give some input.

#1 i've farmed for years and the last time was for wine and welsh's grape juice. the birds destroy those harvests, we used to use nettings but they fail miserably... until this man invented a "hawk" that flies erratically and you can put just about anywhere.. we built our own since it was so easy and actually worked better than the ones you buy (you can paint them in the design of local bird of preys) however here is one that is sold essentially the ones we built were a very tall rod pent at about a 30 degree angle with a line holding the bird and the bird was designed with wings to fly randomly like it is patrolling and checking prey out. these worked wonderfully.


something else, if you are having issues with caterpillars (watch for butterflies coming to land eggs in your crops. i've found two ways of dealing with them, simply removing the eggs daily by hand. or. build a paper wasp nest.. they eat loads of the ******** and will control your garden faster than you can imagine.


ive also churned butter & made my own cottage cheese and cheddar if anyone has questions about those but i need to get to work now.
 
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i've not had chickens in years and am getting ready to do so soon, i designed a feeder that is constantly full. ... should i have? it sounds from this thread that you guys mostly have a set amount of food per day?
 
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i've not had chickens in years and am getting ready to do so soon, i designed a feeder that is constantly full. ... should i have? it sounds from this thread that you guys mostly have a set amount of food per day?

When I was feeding dry feed and leaving a full feeder in the pen 24/7 I was inundated with house sparrows and doves, literally hundreds of sparrows would be out there eating my chicken feed at a time.

Now I feed fermented feed, adults get fed in the morning, in the afternoon they get out to range a little or get some house scraps or weeds. Juvies get fed twice a day and real little chicks get fed as often as needed to keep them full. Since adopting this plan I rarely see a wild bird in my pens at all.
 
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My chickens have constant access to food in their treadle feeders, which eliminates the problem of wild birds eating the food. It allows me to leave town occasionally with very little required of my chicken sitter. Birds sure can be a big problem when providing free access to food here in AZ.
 
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I wish to publicly a sure any one coming to my home, that. I will be first thing tomorrow morning making an appointment, an emergency appointment to be checked out for worms, parasites, lice, ticks and any other Possable contamination. My Sister and Nephew are worried that I have one or more parasites. My nephew sanitizes the house and kitchen after I have been there do to there loving concern.

:/ I have chickens, chickens have deceases, parasites, bacteria, and other unclean stuff, I do not ware shoes in my house, and sometimes my girls try to get in, therefore I contract these things thru my feet. :rolleyes: Furthermore, if you wish not to come I understand. After all, no one will come into a house that a chicken has been in........ It is just not civilized, sanitary, and a thing any normal person would allow. But if you are willing to risk your health and that of family members, knowing a head of time that I have chickens, that I actually handle, I am so looking forward to this week end. :lol:



If it will make you feel safer I will pick up cans of disinfectants, masked, and a box of latex gloves, you will have to being your own hazmat suits

Good Grief!  How about taking your sister and nephew in to have THEM checked out!  I think a brain-eating parasites have invaded each of them.

My GREAT GRANDMOTHER had a pair of housechickens back in the early 1910s.  I am told that her house was always spotless.  I have neighbors whose chickens occasioally wander into their family room, and they are not huge chicken lovers/raisers.  Their house is always spotless.  I occasionally have chickens wander through, although my house is always a disaster (I didn't inherit the house-cleaning gene).  However, the disaster is never about chickens; it's always about stuff that down't get put away.

I won't be coming to our party, but that is not because you have chickens.  It's because my philosophy is that chickens are our friends, not our food.


Yes our great grandma, and beyond had chickens as well.. I have to agree with you that her family must have that brain-eating parasites..
While I have to say chickens are our friends, our family eats chicken.. With that said I feel it is important to learn a how to process.
Now that I have been talking about this with clients & friends, just about everyone, including my own family, has proccessed chickens.
I hear the store of "yeah my grandparents would just go out to the farm & garden for dinner". That seems so self sufficient. Part of
our family were from Europe.. I have seen what the real chickens looks like in that part of the world.. They have hardly any meat on
them... I hear that they taste completely different then chickens raise in a small cage with weird treated food & almost GMO type chickens..
Yes, we eat that kind of chicken so you get the idea..
If anyone wants our Kent Jr. He is a silkie P.M. Us
 
Well, my dog went very, very peacefully on Monday.  I'm grateful that his illness was so short and painless. I miss him--it's hard when I feed the other dogs and only have 3 dishes instead of 4.  He had a good 14 years! 

My chickens are 16-20 weeks old now.  One of the 20-weekers comb and face is red, and she actually squatted (instead of the usual mo of squawking loudly and running away) when I stroked her back.  One of the 16 week barred rocks is getting a really red face as well.  I don't expect eggs from either one too soon, but I still am checking every day! 

I opened a new bag of feed yesterday, my first from the Tucson Organic Co-op.  It's awesome!  The chickens seem to love it, I got a little nervous when the little velociraptors start milling around me as I prepared their food this morning. 

Gardening:  I use the dangling cds for birds.  Doesn't work too well, but they add a nice design element, hahaha!  I have a problem with quail eating my seedlings, grubs eating the roots, and yellow finches eating anything with seeds (sunflowers mainly, but yellow finches make me happy so I plant just for them).  My garden has some struggles! 

Caution with bird netting--I've found I trapped a lot of critters in it.  I used it for a few days, and caught numerous lizards and a baby quail.  It wasn't stretched tight like LKD's photo shows, mine was just draped over some wire support, maybe the tautness makes a difference. 


Condolence from our family.
 
question:

i've not had chickens in years and am getting ready to do so soon, i designed a feeder that is constantly full. ... should i have? it sounds from this thread that you guys mostly have a set amount of food per day?


No not us. Our feeders are always full.. We do however, bring out the spoiled brats treats just about everyday on top of their scratch..
2 days ago our neighbor that mower their back yard gave us the clippings.. Boy were they happy..
 

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