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Oh, also want to note, if anyone on here just wants chicks to raise (and you don't have an incubator) I'd be happy to give you hatched chicks. Right now a friend has given me a giant cabinet incubator on loan, and as long as he lets me borrow it, it's going to be really easy for me to hatch as many chicks as anyone on here could want to raise.

They'd have to be raised to about four or five months to get the "true" adult color and size on them, but if you have room to raise some and would like free chicks, give me a holler. I'd just want anything back that might work for breeding program.
Try contacting local schools--lots of elementary and some middle schools do hatching projects
 
:yesss: I have :jumpy :celebrate :weee
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Got my 1st egg from Sqweekers (golden lakenvelder) today!! Yay...and Liberty my oldest EE has finally started squatting & her comb is bright red! Think she will be next! So far I have a Polish, a RIR and the Lakenvelder laying. Only 11 more to go! If anyone goes broody Im hatching some mutts!!
 
Virtually all chickens that are not bred and raised in laboratory sterile conditions carry mareks.  In the vast majority, it never develops into outright disease, but it can, especially if the brid is under stress or its immunity is compromised.  Some strains of mareks are more virulent than others.  Since you have only one bird who has become ill, I doubt that is the case.  http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/poultry/neoplasms/mareks_disease_in_poultry.html?qt=mareks&alt=sh

Other than not bouncing back as you would expect from an injury, what are the symptoms?


I was wondering about that. From all that I have been reading it seems there are two types of chickens, those that have Marek's and those that will get Marek's regardless of whether they have been vaccinated or not. I understand that vaccinating will prevent it from being too bad, but the cost for a backyard flock owner doesn't make sense. It is really too bad that they don't sell the vaccine in smaller lots for the backyard owner. I bet they could make a decent amount of money.
 
I totally agree!!!  There is definitely a learning curve to goats.  We had a small goat dairy in the interior of Alaska where we sold mostly to moms with new babies.  We lived in a country setting and when we went to work I would go one way with deliveries and my DH would go the other. Plus we raised our 5 kids on it and made cheese and yogurt!  Our milk was very sweet as we gave them sweet feed with their rations - everyone loved the sweeter milk.  We also had multiple acres of great pasture grass with an electric fence.  In Alaska you learned to be your own vet or you partnered with other families who could handle things like dehorning or clipping hooves.  I would love to do it again BUT I'm no longer that young - so I'm sticking to my chickens!!  



A lot of people have complaints about their digestive systems and they're looking for answers.  From my own experience, it's often not as easy to divine the problem as you'd think.  I had just lower than normal lactase levels and I didn't always have severe symptoms.   I think it's short-sighted for the insurance company to not cover the testing.


I would also be interested in that 57%.  However, given they weren't lactose intolerant, that is a separate question from what they were asking.  Your second point is unfounded.  This is something you'd only learn in a college statistics or experimental design class, so bear with me.  Small sample sizes are a problem only for Type II Errors: the likelihood of failing to reject the null hypothesis when the alternate hypothesis is true.  Think of it as a false negative.  This can happen when an effect of some variable is very small, but consistent.  It can take larger sample sizes to detect a difference.  That is not what happened in this study, they found large statistically significant differences in symptoms over time in both raw and pasteurized over both baseline and soy.  With effects that large, funding agencies would not support more expansive and expensive study.   Having said that, there was a slightly significant difference between raw and pasteurized on day 1 of testing (p=0.04).   That would be worth exploring more.


Every study can't answer every question about a subject.   The study was supported by the raw milk lobby and that is what they paid for.  We should be grateful for it, it's the only one out there.  And that's the great thing about science, anyone can go out and collect data that will either agree or disagree with this first study.  But, I am in complete agreement that long term studies will be much more valuable.  Chronic digestive issues generally don't clear themselves up over night.  


Agreed.
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ETA: trying to make the stats explanation clearer.


Here is the solution to all of your trouble! A Milk Chicken!:yiipchick
 
:gig I just got off the phone from my nephew. { I am not interested in cloths, I know how not to dress and how to dress. Grow up with cocktail party's, formal dress at dinner, know makeup, hair, and all that stuff. I attended school with Budweiser, Gallo wine, and St. Louis cream of the crop. I never had a coming out party to I was not excepted into their society. I know what to do and not do.} to instruct me on what to ware. No over hall (I do not own over halls), be sure to bath, the dog needs to be washed or leave him home, and ware something nice, not what I usually ware. He was worried about if I will look and smell ok. Oh, don't go near the chickens.

Wasn't it nice of him to help me out by explaining what I need to do to be around civilized people. I would not have ever thought of bathing, after all I took a bath last month! And it is not even Saturday! At 67, I have no social skills at all......... Never been out of the hog pin, you know that is the warmest spot in the barn!
 
:gig I just got off the phone from my nephew. { I am not interested in cloths, I know how not to dress and how to dress. Grow up with cocktail party's, formal dress at dinner, know makeup, hair, and all that stuff. I attended school with Budweiser, Gallo wine, and St. Louis cream of the crop. I never had a coming out party to I was not excepted into their society. I know what to do and not do.} to instruct me on what to ware. No over hall (I do not own over halls), be sure to bath, the dog needs to be washed or leave him home, and ware something nice, not what I usually ware. He was worried about if I will look and smell ok. Oh, don't go near the chickens.

Wasn't it nice of him to help me out by explaining what I need to do to be around civilized people. I would not have ever thought of bathing, after all I took a bath last month! And it is not even Saturday! At 67, I have no social skills at all......... Never been out of the hog pin, you know that is the warmest spot in the barn!


Well, clearly you will have to dress like a pig farmer with big muck boots, straw hat. How about a corn cob pipe. Make sure you have plenty of dirt under your nails and maybe some straw or hay in your hair. ;) Oooh, ooh, no! I have it, dress like Granny Clampet (sp?) Bring along your shot gun and some moonshine! That'll learn 'im! But then again, maybe that is just my twisted sense of humor talking.:lau
 

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