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Sending lots of prayers out to family and friends for all those affected by the Yarnell fire. Just found out tonight that my DH's best friend who works for the Buckeye FD has been called to help with this fire. Sending extra prayers for a quick resolution (rain) and safe return for all who are still fighting up there.

Chickens survived another day of this heat. Not as bad as it was yesterday here in Mesa. Did pick up a few ice blocks at QT so the girls have some relief for the next day or two and by then I should have my ice stocked up. DH did not get to putting the mister system up today so hopefully he will have time later today or Tuesday to get them up. Looking forward to cooler weather.
 
It's a sad day indeed. I can't imagine how they must have felt and how the lone survivor is feeling. Prayers for their families and those that are still fighting this fire. I pray there is no more loss of life.
 
Pullet or Cockerel? She/He is very bossy and almost protective of the BR at times. Just curious what everyone thinks of my RIR. They should both be about 12 weeks old.






Thanks for the responses everyone! On Saturday, I let them out again and gave them some tomatoes from the garden. As they were eating those I thought I'd see how the hens would do with their roommates fact to face. The head hen went straight for the tomato Scottie (previously known as Scarlet) was eating and he immediately bumped her with his chest and had her on her back putting her in a yielding position. Definitely a cockerel!
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Since I don't want to wake up on EST here in AZ when he starts crowing, anyone want a 12 to 13 week old cockerel and pullet? I don't think Dottie the pullet would do too well on her own the next few weeks or as the only new girl on the block when I integrate her further into the flock.
 
I just put an ad up on Tucson CraigsList but thought I'd mention here as well. Looking for a pet home for my Royal Palm tom. He is 5 years old and won't breed his hens anymore. Gave him LOTS of opportunity this spring, but it was no go. He is a very nice, well-mannered, tom. I give him a baby aspirin every morning in a small piece of bread since I think he has a touch of arthritis, and although he will jump down from his 3' high roost, if he is still up there in the morning, I lift him down so he does not have to jump and hurt his leg. He does get the extra attention around here but I don't have space to keep him since breeding turkeys is what I do....I don't want to butcher him, he is too nice for that. He is the one in my avatar, one of my original turkeys when I got into heritage turkeys 5 years ago. Just asking for a small $15-$20 rehoming fee (only because people tend to not take as good care of something they got for free).



I'm also trying to rehome my Mottled Black turkeys but they WILL be meat if not sold--I have 1 hen and 2 toms. So PM me if interested in them as live birds OR processed (ready to cook) birds!



 
I just put an ad up on Tucson CraigsList but thought I'd mention here as well. Looking for a pet home for my Royal Palm tom. He is 5 years old and won't breed his hens anymore. Gave him LOTS of opportunity this spring, but it was no go. He is a very nice, well-mannered, tom. I give him a baby aspirin every morning in a small piece of bread since I think he has a touch of arthritis, and although he will jump down from his 3' high roost, if he is still up there in the morning, I lift him down so he does not have to jump and hurt his leg. He does get the extra attention around here but I don't have space to keep him since breeding turkeys is what I do....I don't want to butcher him, he is too nice for that. He is the one in my avatar, one of my original turkeys when I got into heritage turkeys 5 years ago. Just asking for a small $15-$20 rehoming fee (only because people tend to not take as good care of something they got for free).

I'm also trying to rehome my Mottled Black turkeys but they WILL be meat if not sold--I have 1 hen and 2 toms. So PM me if interested in them as live birds OR processed (ready to cook) birds!

Whew, those sure are some downright beautiful creatures! I'm extremely afraid that's what my wife is going to be like when our three Bronze get around to slaughter size, that they're way too gorgeous to go on the table. I've pretty much accepted that I have to get a shipment of heritage Bronze either this coming fall or spring and keep one or two around. I'm thinking a tom and a hen for breeding purposes every year, but we'll see. I'm not sure the feed expense is worth having a breeding pair. I only plan on processing about six a year, but would it be worth it to sell the rest?

It's hard to believe he gets up and down from a 3-foot high roost regardless of arthritis. He looks so large!
 
Whew, those sure are some downright beautiful creatures! I'm extremely afraid that's what my wife is going to be like when our three Bronze get around to slaughter size, that they're way too gorgeous to go on the table. I've pretty much accepted that I have to get a shipment of heritage Bronze either this coming fall or spring and keep one or two around. I'm thinking a tom and a hen for breeding purposes every year, but we'll see. I'm not sure the feed expense is worth having a breeding pair. I only plan on processing about six a year, but would it be worth it to sell the rest?

It's hard to believe he gets up and down from a 3-foot high roost regardless of arthritis. He looks so large!

Yes it is sad but the Mottled Blacks have to go. I've been struggling with this bloodline for years. On again off again problems with pendulous crops. The final straw came this year, when ALL the Royal Palm hens I raised last year from this pair had crop problems after the heat hit. (Mottled Blacks produce 25% Royal Palm color). They drink too much in the heat to try to stay cool, and there is a genetic weakness in the ligaments holding the crop in place, so it sags and does not return to normal position. After a while, the food they ingest cannot pass through and just sits there and goes rancid. They can literally starve to death with a full crop. Breeding brother to sister certainly exacerbated the problem. The parents are fine, but the genetic weakness is there. So they are really only good for pets. I'm not even sure an outcross would be enough so that is why I said they will be butchered. Unfortunately with this problem, you don't know it is there until the first full summer as adults which means you have put all that time and feed money into raising them for a year plus, only to have to cull them. That is what happened to the Royal Palm hens.
This can happen in chickens, too, but I think it is much less common than turkeys. The SOP even says a pendulous crop is a DQ for turkeys.

Did you get the broad-breasted Bronze or the heritage standard Bronze? Because if broad-breasted, just brace yourself to butcher regardless of how beautiful. Those broad-breasted turkeys are the turkey equivalent of Cornish cross. They get too big and their little hearts can't keep up. If they don't go lame first, they die young of heart failure. Not good features if you want to keep a bird around long term for a pet.

I have not kept records, but my gut feeling is, after eating an enormous amount of food the first year while growing, my turkeys eat less than the chickens on a maintenance diet. Especially this time of year. They hardly eat anything. In the wintertime, that will change. Just like chickens, you do this because you love the birds, not to make money. So if you enjoy the turkeys, by all means keep a pair for breeding. Some will hatch and raise the poults themselves. Just like all animals, there are some that are better parents. Sometimes even the toms will sit on the eggs and protect the young. They are the exception, but some of them do. Turkeys are way more interesting than most people know.
 
Meant to add, that with the genetic pendulous crop issue, birds from a colder climate than ours may have the problem but it will never show. When I went searching for Bourbon Red hatching eggs this year, I bought from breeders in the hot SE (NC, Georgia). Hopefully they will be okay.
 
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The mountain is really burning now.
Wow, that is unbelievable !! I read that 19 died?? We are out of town till tomorrow, did not check the news.. Thank you for keeping this story on here.. I can only make time for either news or chicken Fourm.... I pick chicken... My DH is taking care of the flock.. Can't wait to hear if our rooster tried to chase him off. He went into their run to turn on the misters.. We are praying for all of those effected by this. Bless their hearts... It is so devastating !!
 
Wow, that is unbelievable !! I read that 19 died?? We are out of town till tomorrow, did not check the news.. Thank you for keeping this
story on here.. I can only make time for either news or chicken Fourm.... I pick chicken...
My DH is taking care of the flock.. Can't wait to hear if our rooster tried to chase him off. He went into their run to turn on the misters..

We are praying for all of those effected by this. Bless their hearts... It is so devastating !!


The lone survivor from that hotshot team has third degree burns covering 75% of his body. He was the lookout. Additionally, 22 other firefighters were injured including eight that are in critical condition. My Dad is almost positive that one of the guys that died was ond of his very regular customers.

It sounds like Yarnell will be a complete loss and parts South of Kingman were told to evacuate this morning. It's still a really, really bad situation.
 
The lone survivor from that hotshot team has third degree burns covering 75% of his body. He was the lookout. Additionally, 22 other firefighters were injured including eight that are in critical condition. My Dad is almost positive that one of the guys that died was ond of his very regular customers.

It sounds like Yarnell will be a complete loss and parts South of Kingman were told to evacuate this morning. It's still a really, really bad situation.


WOW, so unbelievable.. Thank you for this update.. I could look on line but I would get to sucked in.. Praying for rain & containment of the fire..
 

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