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I make good Pork ribs the boneless country style. I make good Chili Relleno, homemade mole and enchiladas. I love to bake so I make all kinds of deserts. My boys love my Oreo Cake and they request it for their Birthdays. I also do a very yummy from scratch Carrot cake.
Carrot cake with yummy cream cheese icing is my fav!
 
My personal preference is home made rather than store bought stuff that is full of soy, gmos, high fructose corn syrup and all sorts of other crap... MagicChicken brings awesome homemade banana bread. I usually bring deviled turkey eggs, homemade cookies are always wonderful
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Deviled turkey eggs? Wow, that sounds yummy!

I also like home made, never buy desserts or sweets even though my sweetie has a massive sweet tooth.
 
So, about these moringa trees. Everything I read about moringa made me excited about growing them for us and the animals to eat. What's not to like about them? They're beautiful, super fast growers, roots, leaves and seeds are edible and the nutritional content is fantastic. I had a hard time starting them over the winter (mistake) and by the spring I'd lost quite a few. I tasted the tubers of some of those early failures and they were sublime. Wonderfully smooth and a rich nutty taste with nice hint of horseradish (I love horseradish). It made me even more hopeful. But then I started tasting the raw leaves--not so good. Thinking they might be better cooked, we tried stir frying them and they were still a bit bitter and something seemed odd about the flavor. I started thinking that maybe it was because some of the leaves I cooked were older and maybe the younger growth might be better. So, while topping the trees off and trimming them back I tasted the growth tips and at first they were wonderful, kinda like broccoli stems or asparagus. But then a strange, powerful and long-lasting aftertaste (that I still can't quite describe) took hold.
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I think maybe I've just found the only food stuff to grow from dirt that I don't like. I'm still hopeful that the seeds will taste good.

Oh well, at least I can feed them to the chickens, right? But my chickens don't like the leaves either. Dang chickens loved the short seedlings and would eat them to the dirt every chance they got but now that the trees are larger, they don't like them. I even removed all the protection I had for the trees and the chickens couldn't care less for the leaves. Even the tortoises don't like them.

Has anyone else grown and eaten moringa or fed it to their chickens? Your findings and thoughts? Recipes?

Gallo, that is really strange. I tasted some raw leaves offered to me at Sun Valley Growers, was over there getting a replacement tree for one that didn't take. I thought they were okay and had kind of a spicy after taste, it didn't linger. Maybe it is the soil you are growing them in that is making them taste odd? I am surprised your chickens didn't go for them right off. We tried giving ours some prunings from Texas Ranger that had full beautiful purple-red blooms attached. I tried to tell Victor to wait until after the bloom to prune, but he was intent on cutting the branches that were growing into the driveway RIGHT NOW, so I said give them to the chickens. He said they totally freaked out! The next day, those flowers on the branches were still there, untouched.
 
Gallo, that is really strange. I tasted some raw leaves offered to me at Sun Valley Growers, was over there getting a replacement tree for one that didn't take. I thought they were okay and had kind of a spicy after taste, it didn't linger. Maybe it is the soil you are growing them in that is making them taste odd? I am surprised your chickens didn't go for them right off. We tried giving ours some prunings from Texas Ranger that had full beautiful purple-red blooms attached. I tried to tell Victor to wait until after the bloom to prune, but he was intent on cutting the branches that were growing into the driveway RIGHT NOW, so I said give them to the chickens. He said they totally freaked out! The next day, those flowers on the branches were still there, untouched.


That might not be so strange. Texas Ranger is basically purple sage. While I like sage fresh or dried, you can't use it when canning because it will turn bitter and basically ruin anything that you preserve with sage as an ingredient. Maybe the chooks are trying to tell us something?
 
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Yeah, bitter tastes are associated with alkaloid substances which are in turn sometimes troublesome. I wonder if our alkaline soil has a contributing factor. I did did a quick search and found that eating the roots is not recommended because of potentially dangerous alkaloids (I don't know for sure about the veracity of that). I'm going to try drying them too. I've been drying the celery leaves from the celery I grow. Fresh, the leaves are practically inedible they're so bitter, but dried they're really good. We put them in soups. Maybe the moringa will be a bit like that. Desertmarcy, have you eaten the leaves you've grown? Have you tried feeding it to the chickens?
 
I have no idea about Internet or text slang.. However I do get lol.. I prefer to never use this so called "slang"
I am a first generation imagrant from Germany... Our family did it legally.. :highfive:
However I have some hick in me', Yeehaa


@City farm Well CF, you got me curious. My mom always told me we could trace her side of the family (Coburn) back to the Mayflower. Wasn't too sure about my dad's side (Sarber), so I did a little digging on the internet. Before he died, my grandfather told me if I ever wanted to find about the family, go to Mentone, Indiana, so I started there. The earliest reference I could find was George Sarber, who bought 171 acres in what was "green woods" but is now Mentone. That was in 1841. Tracing his birthplace back to Pennsylvania, (can you say Pennsylvania Dutch?), I traced his parentage back to Jacob Sarber, born approx. 1720 in the Palatines area of southwest Germany. Married in 1738 in Northampton, Pennsylvania, he would have been about 18 years old. So, sometime between 1720 and 1738, Jacob was a refugee from the Palatines, which was a very war-weary area. A lot of religious refugees lived in the area, including Martin Luther. The Prince of the Palatine was appointed by a papal bull, and it was part of the Holy Roman Empire. After Protestantism caught hold, Louis of France invaded and sacked the area several times. Britain, looking for able bodies for it's American colonies, offered passage to Palatine refugees during the 1720's and 1730's, and I guess Jacob jumped at the chance. I have looked at a lot of the passenger lists of ships from this period, but haven't found him or any other Sarbers, but did find a few Surbers?
Anyway, apparently a branch got tired of Indiana, and moved to Dearborn, Michigan, where my dad was born. Turns out I have a living relative in Dearborn named Esther Sarber, who is currently 109 years old!
I never would have known any of this stuff, if you hadn't gotten me wondering when my dad's family immigrated. Thank you!

P.S. The Dearborn move had to be about 1915, my grandfather was born and raised in Men tone, but had moved to Dearborn by the time my dad was born in 1933.
 
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