You guys crack me up with your "hermit" talk! I grew up outside of Payson. It was a 45 minute drive into "town", that's if the rivers weren't flooded or a tree wasn't down in the road. I remember driving down to Phoenix to stock up at Price Club (Costco now) every few months. I do like the conviences of the city, but I'd gladly give those up to have a piece of land "away".
Bobby B: don't despair! There are still good people out there raising good kids (I'd like to think I'm one of them!). I have no problem taking all 5 to the grocery store...they do not yell, run around, or make a nuisance of themselves. Now home is another story!
But really, I am amazed at how much self control a 2 year of can exhibit if they are only given the chance to. It doesn't mean constant spankings or anything like that. (but a good swat here and there sure gets their attention!). The key is consistancy. Wheather you're dog tired, in front of a crowd of people, or whatever, let them know the behavior is up unacceptable and will not be tolerated. And if that means leaving the store or restaurant because someone's having a tantrum, so be it. Kids will be kids, it's up to us to provide the guidelines and foundation for them to grow into productive, respectful, good adults. My husband has gotten after other people's kids and the parents act like it's his fault their kids are brats. If my kid is acting up and someone reasonably scolds them, I say "Thank You!". So anyway, be assured that there are many people who are trying their darnedest to raise good kids...but I do fear we are outnumbered.
Bobby B: don't despair! There are still good people out there raising good kids (I'd like to think I'm one of them!). I have no problem taking all 5 to the grocery store...they do not yell, run around, or make a nuisance of themselves. Now home is another story!
