Asil Chickens!

[Icarus Crows]

The differentiation of "Fact" from "Opinion" seems to be a common problem in contemporary America...I blame the media!
Those are beautiful birds Prariechicken. Many Asil breeders won't sell eggs, do you?

 

[prariechiken]

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Thanks for the compliments, they are some of my favorites on the yard. I may have eggs available, but more than likely they will be in small quantity and supply given the laying and brooding habits of aseel hens. The best thing to do is shoot me an email with what you are interested in, I'll add ya to the list and if anything comes available I send a blanket email to all those that were interested. I would love to go in order of inquiry, but to ensure that the freshest eggs are sent the first responder will be given the chance at them, then if not them, on to the next. It may not even make it this far since I will not hold onto eggs waiting for a buyer to come through with the money. After that person has had a shot, they are removed from the list as the next eggs become available. I work too hard for my money and I know everyone else does too, and myself would not want eggs that have been laying around waiting to be shipped. You have the best opportunity to hatch with the freshest eggs and that is what I want to send. Started and adult fowl is another option we offer if available, and for the money, though it is more expensive than eggs, is the way to go in my opinion. One batch of young ones from a pair will more than likely get you back your initial investment and some, that is if you can bear to part with them...they are very special birds and hard to let go of

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[Icarus Crows]

Thank you Prariechicken, maybe I'll just cool my heels and see what happens next month at the Stockton show then go from there.

 

[Guitartists]

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LOVELY birds!!!!!

 

[wclawrence]

Hmmm. So I asked where the info came from (because you presented it like it was actually factual and based in reality.) In fact, the info was second-hand from a person who claimed to be able to train chickens to "not run" from another cock.
I say if we can train our chickens to attack or not attack, then we should train them all to attack terrorist extremist and send them to the Middle East. I'm in.

Gamefowl are not "overly aggressive" they are just right. Again your opinion trying to overpower the facts.

An asil rooster will kill any rooster they can, any time they can. because they are game chickens. Period.
There are a few reasons no one uses rhode island reds in the pit.
1) they are to clumsy and slow. a halfway decent game chicken would have 100 holes punched in a RIR before he could hit the game rooster one good time.
2) lack of grit. the first time the game rooster let go of him he would run away as fast as possible with the hackles on the back of his neck up.

It's not that I get on here looking for someone to bash. I just feel like Icarus Crows about the problem between fact and opinion (especially when the opinion is contrary to the facts)

 

[mikarod]

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The RIR comment was presented as a joke. Sorry you failed to see the humor in it. As for the bashing...could have fooled me.

Since apparently I can offer no hard-fact evidence for this breed, I'm leaving the subject. I think it's wonderful that he or she is considering this breed. All breeds need conservation and and it takes a special person in order to preserve a breed known for aggression.

 

[Msbear]

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These birds are not trained to fight or to not run away from a fight

They are chickens for Pete's sake! They are naturally aggressive to purpetuate only the strongest bloodlines in the wild. The same is with wild cats, birds of prey and many species of wildlife. Game birds are as close to a wild chicken as you can get...certainly not a RIR. You can help breed that aggression out of them by removing overly aggressive stock from your flock but most breeders see this as an asset to the breed and understand proper management of these birds.

 

[wilds of pa]

Had a few Americana type that would not stop battling..they had to be separated or they would have killed each other...Also some of them never liked any other Roo's around them or people, they where hand raised and hand fed at times, but just became evil and there was no changing there little pea brains about it.... fortunately those birds wound up being dinner and the terror they promoted on the farm was ended

as far as RIR, Ive seen many you'd swear they had game fowl in them, they can be quit aggressive the roo's, towards people and other roo's..

My management for overly aggressive roo's here on the farm is to take it out of the loop completely.....

Charlie

 

[prariechiken]

Actually Rhode Island reds do have gamefowl in them. Like many of our "pure" breeds that are talked about on this forum, they were created using several breeds one being Malay, a gamefowl. The gameness that was there has been bred out, the malay was only added to improve size of the breed as well as the viability that adding gamefowl to a line brings with it. It is very sad the amount of misinformation that is spread about gamefowl on forums by people who have never had the pleasure of raising some of these majestic birds. I would encourage everyone to do a little research, go ask a gamefowl breeder some questions and learn a little about gamefowl. There is so much more to gamefowl than the media inspired hate and despise that many hold for these rare and threatened breeds. (Thanks again wclawrence for helping correct the misinformation and wild assumptions.)

 

[wilds of pa]

Good point prariechiken on the RIR'S.. each to there on choice of birds..

You own what you like is the way i see it..

I deal with aggression within my pheasant flock on occasions, which can sometimes be a pain in the you know what. but i use a lot of different tactics to try give them a peaceable life..

Charlie