Ko gunkei (Ko Yamato Gunkei)

[LMWelch]

I know there are no true 100% Japanese Yamato-gunkei in the US. GFF was offering what they called Yams, but were not true Yams, at best they were Ko x Yam-Gun, though I have heard that they mixed Asil in there. I have been very lucky to acquire a stag and hen that have around 75% pure Japanese Yam-Gun genetics in them. Thanks to GFF and imported eggs. I am mainly writing this in hopes of finding others who may have high percentage Yam-Gun genetics in their Ko Guns, and would be interested in building up each others genetics.

Hen line is
GFF (Ko x Gun) hen x import (eggs) stag
Best produced hen x import -f1
Best produced hen x import -f2 (my acquired hen who is 2 years old).

Stag line is f2 x import, he is coming up on one year this summer.

I claim only 75% Yam-Gun genetics due to not truly knowing what GFF was offering originally. GFF has been known to fudge a few (important) things, so I don't really count on them to be honest with what they truly have, though I do believe they had SOME Yam-Gun genetics as the chicks displayed the very same behavior and issues as such.

I am not sure if I will ever be confident enough in these genetics to ever call them true Yams. I don't mean to be a snob, but I belive true Yams would require two 100% true Japanese parents.

These genetics are approved by the APA/ABA, only because the APA/ABA categorizes all bantam Shamo varieties as just Shamo Bantams (Ko and Yamato regarded as the same).

If anyone has any Yamato-Gunkei genetics they would be interested in swapping, please let me know.

Thank you!

 

[Debbie292d]

I found a very old thread someone had started on Yamato-Gunkei, but the last person posting on there was last on in Jan of this year. Perhaps you could try message them.

Here's another, and the author of this thread is still online a lot, but not sure they have what you have, although I saw them mentioned later in the thread.

 

[godachicken]

I know there are no true 100% Japanese Yamato-gunkei in the US. GFF was offering what they called Yams, but were not true Yams, at best they were Ko x Yam-Gun, though I have heard that they mixed Asil in there. I have been very lucky to acquire a stag and hen that have around 75% pure Japanese Yam-Gun genetics in them. Thanks to GFF and imported eggs. I am mainly writing this in hopes of finding others who may have high percentage Yam-Gun genetics in their Ko Guns, and would be interested in building up each others genetics.

Hen line is
GFF (Ko x Gun) hen x import (eggs) stag
Best produced hen x import -f1
Best produced hen x import -f2 (my acquired hen who is 2 years old).

Stag line is f2 x import, he is coming up on one year this summer.

I claim only 75% Yam-Gun genetics due to not truly knowing what GFF was offering originally. GFF has been known to fudge a few (important) things, so I don't really count on them to be honest with what they truly have, though I do believe they had SOME Yam-Gun genetics as the chicks displayed the very same behavior and issues as such.

I am not sure if I will ever be confident enough in these genetics to ever call them true Yams. I don't mean to be a snob, but I belive true Yams would require two 100% true Japanese parents.

These genetics are approved by the APA/ABA, only because the APA/ABA categorizes all bantam Shamo varieties as just Shamo Bantams (Ko and Yamato regarded as the same).

If anyone has any Yamato-Gunkei genetics they would be interested in swapping, please let me know.

Thank you!
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Google Yamato gunkei thunder hooves ranch. This lady in California has had Yamato gunkei for years! She sales some in the fall usually. She also has koshamo and shamo etc.

 

[godachicken]

This is a 1/2 Yamato gunkei rooster of mine. The other half is Thai/Shamo mixed in. I bought the parent Yamato gunkei from thunder hooves ranch.

 

[LMWelch]

This is a 1/2 Yamato gunkei rooster of mine. The other half is Thai/Shamo mixed in. I bought the parent Yamato gunkei from thunder hooves ranch.

Caldwells Yams are not true Japanese Yams. Her Yams resemble true Jap. Ko shamo, and her Ko shamo resemble "American" Ko Shamo, standard wise.
I have bought her "Yams" in the past, and they 100% are not Yams. But they are great Ko Shamo

 

[godachicken]

Yeah the main thing they don’t have is the large dewlap under the chin like some i have seen from other countries , but the body on them are nice! My rooster was so wrinkled in the face and eyes it couldn’t see cracked corn on the ground to pickup!