Ate our first home-processed chicken! Delicious pot pies!

littledog

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Background: We hatched 12 dual-purpose chickens (Marans crosses) last summer, with the intention of keeping the hens and processing the cockerels at 16 weeks. We booked our County Extension's processing equipment (cones, scalder, plucking machine) for October, but when we got it home, found the scalder was broken! (they still owe us a free rental)
One thing led to another over the winter, so we kept them in a bachelor pen away from the hens, and ended up processing them the old-fashioned way. We bought a propane burner for outdoors and a big 8-gallon pot (like for shrimp boils) used cut-up feed bags instead of cones, and plucked them by hand - definitely not as easy as putting them in a plucker, but not as hard as we expected.
By this time they were 9-10 months old, so not ideal, but they were big.

It worked out great - most went into the freezer, but the last one we chilled for a day, then put into the crock pot on low for 12 hours, then removed the bones - easy after all that cooking. Then I put the bones back in the crock pot along with some pork and lamb bones I'd saved in the freezer, added water, and cooked that for 12 hours. Then put it all through a strainer, froze the chicken stock, roasted the bones in the oven, and smashed them up for bone meal for the garden.

Holy Toledo, I got 5 big pot pies just out of that one rooster! Could have been 6, the pies were heavy on the meat, but I'd run out of dough, LOL. As well as 3 pints of chicken stock, and about a pint of bone meal for the garden.

The pies were super delicious, way more flavorful, and really dense instead of runny, overprocessed crap like the ones available at the store.

Yes, the whole process did take a lot of work, but surprising to me since we're beginners, it was cost effective. So here's my rough cost-analysis, just for this one first rooster that we processed from hatching to eating, not counting our work, because as we get more efficient and get the timing better, it should improve:

At $16.00 per 50lbs of feed, it cost us $32.10 to feed him for 10 months.
It cost about $7.70 for the other ingredients for the pies - flour, carrots, peas, celery, butter. It cost at the most $1.00 for the propane and power for the slow cooker - I'm probably overestimating because our power is not that expensive and the propane was for 6 roosters.

So for $38.69, we got 160 oz of pot pies, 72 oz. of broth, and 1 lb. of bone meal.

If you look at these things in the retail market, Amazon has 24 7oz. pot pies for $85.02, Marie Callender's 10 oz. pies are $3.50 each, Safeway charges $3.29 for a 32-oz pack of chicken broth, and Amazon offers 4-lbs of bone meal for $7.97.

Doing the math, we got $90.37 worth of products for $38.69. Obviously not taking into account the hours of work we put in (which will become more efficient the more we do it) but also not taking into account how much raising our own food is better for our health - fresher, tastes better, and most importantly, a more humane method for the chickens than current factory-farming practices.
 
Background: We hatched 12 dual-purpose chickens (Marans crosses) last summer, with the intention of keeping the hens and processing the cockerels at 16 weeks. We booked our County Extension's processing equipment (cones, scalder, plucking machine) for October, but when we got it home, found the scalder was broken! (they still owe us a free rental)
One thing led to another over the winter, so we kept them in a bachelor pen away from the hens, and ended up processing them the old-fashioned way. We bought a propane burner for outdoors and a big 8-gallon pot (like for shrimp boils) used cut-up feed bags instead of cones, and plucked them by hand - definitely not as easy as putting them in a plucker, but not as hard as we expected.
By this time they were 9-10 months old, so not ideal, but they were big.

It worked out great - most went into the freezer, but the last one we chilled for a day, then put into the crock pot on low for 12 hours, then removed the bones - easy after all that cooking. Then I put the bones back in the crock pot along with some pork and lamb bones I'd saved in the freezer, added water, and cooked that for 12 hours. Then put it all through a strainer, froze the chicken stock, roasted the bones in the oven, and smashed them up for bone meal for the garden.

Holy Toledo, I got 5 big pot pies just out of that one rooster! Could have been 6, the pies were heavy on the meat, but I'd run out of dough, LOL. As well as 3 pints of chicken stock, and about a pint of bone meal for the garden.

The pies were super delicious, way more flavorful, and really dense instead of runny, overprocessed crap like the ones available at the store.

Yes, the whole process did take a lot of work, but surprising to me since we're beginners, it was cost effective. So here's my rough cost-analysis, just for this one first rooster that we processed from hatching to eating, not counting our work, because as we get more efficient and get the timing better, it should improve:

At $16.00 per 50lbs of feed, it cost us $32.10 to feed him for 10 months.
It cost about $7.70 for the other ingredients for the pies - flour, carrots, peas, celery, butter. It cost at the most $1.00 for the propane and power for the slow cooker - I'm probably overestimating because our power is not that expensive and the propane was for 6 roosters.

So for $38.69, we got 160 oz of pot pies, 72 oz. of broth, and 1 lb. of bone meal.

If you look at these things in the retail market, Amazon has 24 7oz. pot pies for $85.02, Marie Callender's 10 oz. pies are $3.50 each, Safeway charges $3.29 for a 32-oz pack of chicken broth, and Amazon offers 4-lbs of bone meal for $7.97.

Doing the math, we got $90.37 worth of products for $38.69. Obviously not taking into account the hours of work we put in (which will become more efficient the more we do it) but also not taking into account how much raising our own food is better for our health - fresher, tastes better, and most importantly, a more humane method for the chickens than current factory-farming practices.
I wish I could have done this. I have yet to get past my attachment issues and ending a life. I have to rely on other’s ability to do this. 🤦‍♂️Hopefully I’ll never be so hungry that I lose this but I thank, admire and appreciate all who can. You’re right, homegrown food is ALWAYS best. Keep up the good work!
 
Awesome....You did you take any pictures of the pies?
I should have when they came out of the oven, but here's a frozen one - not one of the prettiest, because I was running short of dough and the top layer shrank a bit in the oven.
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I wish I could have done this. I have yet to get past my attachment issues and ending a life. I have to rely on other’s ability to do this. 🤦‍♂️Hopefully I’ll never be so hungry that I lose this but I thank, admire and appreciate all who can. You’re right, homegrown food is ALWAYS best. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, I do appreciate your seriousness about ending a life. We feel that way too! It took a few years to decide whether eating animals was right, or could be if the circumstances were different from supporting the cruel factory-farming industry.
For a while, I only ate fish I caught myself or deer or elk my friends hunted (I'm not a hunter, though I have nothing against hunting, as long as it's done according to the proper season, just like wild predators do it.)
Then, I tried a vegan diet for a few years, but just couldn't stick to it and still feel strong and fit. Some people can, which I admire, but to me, the most important thing is treating the animals right and giving them a happy life, then a quick and humane end when they become our food, with respect for them and gratitude for their sacrifice.
The opposite of how food animals are treated as nothing but commodities by the factory farming industry - so though we eat meat, we don't support that industry.
Today, the only meat we eat is from (newly) our own chickens, pork and sheep from farmers we know in our area who humanely slaughter their animals on their own farm, minimizing stress and fear to the animal, versus a long trailer ride to some scary industrial mass-produced slaughter place, where the people who have to work there are barely any better-treated than the poor animals who are terrified and tortured to provide expensively-packaged and overpriced meat commodities.
We no longer buy any meat from any supermarket, and feel good about not supporting the cruelty industry.
 
Thank you, I do appreciate your seriousness about ending a life. We feel that way too! It took a few years to decide whether eating animals was right, or could be if the circumstances were different from supporting the cruel factory-farming industry.
For a while, I only ate fish I caught myself or deer or elk my friends hunted (I'm not a hunter, though I have nothing against hunting, as long as it's done according to the proper season, just like wild predators do it.)
Then, I tried a vegan diet for a few years, but just couldn't stick to it and still feel strong and fit. Some people can, which I admire, but to me, the most important thing is treating the animals right and giving them a happy life, then a quick and humane end when they become our food, with respect for them and gratitude for their sacrifice.
The opposite of how food animals are treated as nothing but commodities by the factory farming industry - so though we eat meat, we don't support that industry.
Today, the only meat we eat is from (newly) our own chickens, pork and sheep from farmers we know in our area who humanely slaughter their animals on their own farm, minimizing stress and fear to the animal, versus a long trailer ride to some scary industrial mass-produced slaughter place, where the people who have to work there are barely any better-treated than the poor animals who are terrified and tortured to provide expensively-packaged and overpriced meat commodities.
We no longer buy any meat from any supermarket, and feel good about not supporting the cruelty industry.
We have a lot in common. I never went the veg route. Love meat too much. My grampa was a butcher. Had his own butchery and sold the meat. I remember watching him kill a pig. He put all kinds of good veggies and food the pig loved in a trough and while the pig ate, he ended it. Pigs last thoughts were happiness. It broke my heart though. He tried to toughen me up back then but I still have it as a hurdle. Even killing a fish makes me feel bad but I do it. Nah, you’ve got my respect. Maybe when times get tough, I can. Pretty sure my wife is willing and able now. The bachelor flock eats her flowers and poop on the porch. Keep it up. These are the skills we were meant to have and pass down. I totally relate with you.
 
Great job! And it was cool to see the breakdown of the costs. We started raising meat ourselves a couple years ago and don't have any plans to turn back either. If you can do it, it's the way to go.
Like you said, it's healthier and you can feel good about the life the chicken had before it became your dinner. And it's a real bonus that your costs came out under what you can buy in the stores! That's not always the case, but I find it worth it to pay a tiny bit more for the quality.

What's your pot pie recipe? Is it all homemade or do you also use some cans (no shame in it! Just wondering)?
 
I'm wondering what is meant by "just like wild predators do it"? They eat meat year around.
I meant that in the wilderness (not that there's much of that left any more, that's free from the managing hands of humans) that predators do eat meat year-round like you say, but who they prey on varies drastically according to the seasons.
Take wolves and elk for a simple example: in the summer and early fall, there might be old bucks that have been supplanted in the breeding herd by younger ones, older ones who are now slower and maybe have injuries. The wolf pack will get together and bring down the slowest.
Middle of winter, neither group can move as fast, both are hunkering down in their own sheltered areas, where the elk herd stay together in some valley that has unfrozen running water or ice that be broken, and scrape the snow for grass. The wolf pack spreads out into dens and they hunt individually for small game like rabbits and rodents, small game they can smell under the snow, follow and pounce on. Which works out for the pregnant females, the small prey might not be much but they're plentiful, close to the den and easy to catch.

When Spring comes, both groups are giving birth to cubs and fawns. Snow melts, the elk herd travels together and protects each other and their babies, the boss bucks force the young bucks out of the herd. The wolf pack designates an auntie to guard the baby cubs, and the adults re-form their pack to hunt together and bring down slower less-developed, unhealthy or injured fawns, older bucks and does that can't keep up with the herd.
It's a similar dynamic for deer, mountain goats, bighorn sheep, cougars, grizzly bears, all the wild prey herds and predator species we are fortunate to have living in our wilderness.

When it comes to elk or deer hunting season for humans, it makes sense that we should only be allowed to hunt the individuals that are not needed to maintain the integrity of the herd or the health of predators. After winter has come, predators have retreated to their dens to hunt rodents in the cold, and older, slower bucks, younger bucks who have been deemed redundant by the herd, are wandering around in danger of starvation in less-welcoming areas, those are the only individuals humans should hunt, so that type of hunting season seems appropriate.
The elk and deer hunters I know do complain when our state doesn't quite get the season right because of varied weather, but they do follow the laws.
 

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