Australians - Where are you all????

Hi Aussies and all! Would have said hello on that other Aussie thread but it was huge... Too many posts, not enough time.
Quote: Just wanted to add, just in case... (I reckon you probably already know though). Ivomectin can kill some dogs, especially herding breeds/common working farm dog breeds. They're known to have hypersensitive individuals among them due to a genetic mutation caused by generational exposure from being in paddocks where horses etc have been wormed, and also from people using Ivomectin on dogs. Coma, paralysis, blindness, deafness, and death from an allergic type reaction can result, even from exposure to minute amounts of Ivomectin.

Those that do recover take a long time and may not recover fully. Two "immune" adults can still produce hypersensitive pups. A litter of non-sensitive pups can have one pup in the whole bunch who will die if it even licks a horses' drool after it's been wormed with that. I've heard there's some sort of test you can get done to identify whether your dog has the gene responsible.
Quote: Farming roos has been discussed and attempted for decades now but they're too difficult. The only way, it seems, is to "game ranch" them. As in, have a large property with feed and water to attract and maintain a population, and hunt them periodically. (Not the true meaning of the term, I know). They don't transport well at all, being one of the main problems, so they must be processed on-site. I think it's just a matter of having the setup. I'm sure someone's made strides in this area.

I'm pretty keen on "game ranching" both natives and some exotic species which are either already running feral in Australia or are in private collections and zoos. (Banteng, Gaur, Eland, Nilgai, various other ruminants, etc). A lot of these animals are very well suited to the Outback and thrive to a competitive degree compared to any domestic cattle, with superior dressing weights and fecundity, water independence, disease resistance, etc. I know these ideas aren't popular with a lot of folks but I don't see too much difference between farming one common introduced species or another less common introduced species. I've been eating feral deer recently, and it's very nice. Hard to go back to storebought beef or chicken or whatever. No longer a fan of any storebought meats, they just taste rank. Nothing compares to home grown.

Anyway, best wishes to all.
 
i wish it wasnt so expensive to buy in supermarkets tho more people would buy it and there would be money in farming them most people just think of roo meat last when do their shopping maybe because their not a lot of good recipes (please post that tail soup recipe if you can remember it anniebee) the farmer down the rd is known to feed them and leave them alone when they were in his crops he must of had enough of the crop loss because last year he shot heaps and left them to rot. if i had known his intensions i would have followed and picked a few up to process and skinned the rest the pelts make great floor rugs.

For RachMickMurphy .... From memory, my mother's kangaroo tail soup was made by cutting up the sections ( vertebrae like portions - guess it is vertebrae as it extends from the spine ) ....and placing them in water, with whole carrots and one onion, and a big handful of barley. Salt was added to taste. She simmered it for hours - and the richness from the meat / bones was delicious. The vegies and barley pretty well disintegrated after hours of simmering. From memory, the meat fell off in the long cooking, and I think she left it all there - certainly there were some tiny chunks of really tender meat at times. She also put the soup through a strainer at times, which resulted in a rich thick brown stock or consomme. Just removed all the bones ( and there were lots ) .... and there it was. Rich and beautiful. I wondered if there were any kangaroo ( & soup ) recipes on line, so Googled and there are - at this link :

http://www.macromeats.com.au/Recipes/Kangaroo_Tail_Soup.aspx#.UlGlXNKBn5E The soup on this page has a whole lot more in it than Mum ever used. There are other recipes for kangaroo meals on this page as well .... just cursor over the pics that are shown towards the bottom. I am going back there to try some myself. A point is made on this link, that it should be cooked quickly and served rare or medium rare. I prefer mine a little over medium rare, but never well done - turns to leather that way. Pelts for floor rugs - my grandmother had them here and there in the farmhouse.

Hope this helps.

Cheers .......... AB.
 
Hi, that's the first time I've heard roo meat described like lambs fry/liver. I find it very strong. My school holiday job was cutting their heads and testicles off in a factory.

Mum used to pickle it and it tasted just like corned beef.

Note for anyone who wants to cook it - it needs to be treated like other extremely lean meats like venison or horse. Do not over cook it. And if you can cook it on a BBQ and not make it tough I'll take my hat off to you.

Croc tastes like whatever it has been fed. The crocs from farms feeding chickens taste just like chicken and the ones being fed wild pig taste like wild pigs.

The best meat I have ever tried is donkey from the NT.

I hope you and your chooks are well.
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Hello MyHaven .... found your comments here very interesting - as usual. I could imagine that pickling kangaroo would end up tasting like corned beef, as it should. The link below here, shows some of the nutritional qualities ( and lots more - recipes etc ) of kangaroo, and high on the list is iron, which not doubt accounts for why I experience a slight taste of iron when eating it. Lambs' Fry or any other liver, is heavy going as it is absolutely loaded with iron .... and takes a while to get through a decent plateful. A lot of people don't like liver, or any other forms of offal. I do.

http://www.macromeats.com.au/Recipes/Kangaroo_Tail_Soup.aspx#.UlGsJdKBn5G This site recommends quick cooking and eating rare to medium rare - I prefer mine a touch more than medium rare. Like Venison ( which I also enjoy - it does have a strong flavour though ) ... and any form of good meat - quick cooking is the key I guess. So get the Barbie out and have another go at BBQ'ing a good piece of kanga steak - ultra hot flame / heat and quick. I would think you would have to serve it immediately - often people doing Barbies, leave the meat to one side to keep warm before serving. Not so I would imagine with kangaroo. As for horse and donkey - I will leave that to you and others who have the chance to experience it.

Your school holiday job sounds like fun - NOT !! Ugh - not a pleasant experience.

Me and me chooks are well thank you ... hoping you all are the same.

Good catching up with you again ......

Cheers .... AB.
 
[COLOR=333333]Howdy folks .. has been a while! I have missed heaps ..... Previous Post: I have 3 pet bantam hens. I was only going to have two but two became three (basic chicken-math I am told lol).  I was warned that Cilla, my Black Cochin, may go broody and sure enough she did. 3 days she hardly left the nesting box and after hours and hours of 'broody' research, some of the options sounded very eeew, I made a decision to give her what she wants and she is now quite happily sitting on 5 silkie bantam eggs.  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]What have I done?!  She may be ready for this but am I? I am both apprehensive and excited .. I have numerous 'what-ifs' going through my head; what am I going to do with them if they hatch; besides keep one of course (basic chicken-math lol)? What if they are roosters (can't keep roosters) what will I do with them? What do I feed them? Extensions and alterations are now required to the chateau so that if they do hatch they have somewhere 'safe'. Yaada, yaada :-D[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]Then I realised, if an 8 month old little bantam chicken can do this surely I can!  Lots of research and one day at a time.  If chickens could talk, Cilla is probably telling me to "Chill, Mum, I got this covered"[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]Two week's later (now):  Wow! Some strange stuff has been happening!  The other day, I get home from work and Cilla is sitting on 3 eggs and Dusty (Bantam Langshan) is sitting on 3; 2 of Cilla's and 1 she laid!  So I gave Cilla her 2 back and took away the unfertile one.  But Dusty wasn't having any of that and 5 minutes later, had stolen 2 back lol.  I'm thinking OK, fine, I'll leave you to it.  But the next day, Dusty has obviously figured that being broody is not as much fun as it looked and gave up and Cilla has all the eggs again.  Normality returns for 4 days.  My hubby was working from home on Thursday; he sets up under the gazebo and while he works the girls can supervised-free-range .. he looks up to check on them, 'Yep, Cilla on her eggs, uh nope, that's Dusty!' .. Apparently, they tag-teamed 4-5 times throughout the day, taking turns sitting on the eggs!  We have a week to go (Friday) and I am going to be very surprised if anything hatches and if it does, I wonder who is going to be Mum? lols[/COLOR]


Once the eggs start to cheep you won't be able to get either of them off the nest!
 
Once the eggs start to cheep you won't be able to get either of them off the nest!

Thanks for that tillyita .. I am a total newbie at this chick-thing :)
If it is OK, I do have a question .. I have been gently persuading Cilla to 'take-a-break' and leave the nest throughout this and she has been very good in getting a quick drink, something to eat and a quick stretch then straight back to it. With 4-5 days to go, do you think I should just leave her to it now and not persuade her? Having watched her for a while, I am hopeful that she will, at some stage, take a break under her own steam.
We have 34 degrees predicted today so I am going to continue with popping a drink of water in front of every so often .. she seems to appreciate that.
 
Thanks for that tillyita .. I am a total newbie at this chick-thing :)
If it is OK, I do have a question .. I have been gently persuading Cilla to 'take-a-break' and leave the nest throughout this and she has been very good in getting a quick drink, something to eat and a quick stretch then straight back to it.  With 4-5 days to go, do you think I should just leave her to it now and not persuade her?  Having watched her for a while, I am hopeful that she will, at some stage, take a break under her own steam.
We have 34 degrees predicted today so I am going to continue with popping a drink of water in front of every so often .. she seems to appreciate that.


I tend to do the same thing. I often turf them off the nest at feed up time, so they actually have a chance to get some of the food! You generally don't need to because they will get up once a day - we just dont necessarily see it!. If any of the eggs are cheeping - I leave them completely alone, if they get up and down too much at this point they can prematurely break the eggs and you loose your chicks. The eggs can start internally pipping anywhere from 18 days onwards.
 
OMG .. I'm stressing!
I picked up my eggs on the Sunday and when the lady gave them to me she said to mark 20 days on the calendar. I'm thinking they were probably laid on the Saturday the 21st. 20 days from when she handed them to me is up on Friday.
I noticed today that one of the eggs has a small circular 'indent' in the shell and some very very tiny cracks, barely visible (needed my glasses). It doesn't smell at all.
I'm freaking out! I don't know if something is happening, I don't want to mess with it. Apparently some bantams hatch on day 18 and if you include the Saturday they were laid on, tomorrow is day 18!
I don't know what to do, I don't know if one of them is starting to hatch or something has gone wrong.
OMG stress levels are now officially through the roof! lol
 
[COLOR=333333]OMG .. I'm stressing![/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I picked up my eggs on the Sunday and when the lady gave them to me she said to mark 20 days on the calendar.  I'm thinking they were probably laid on the Saturday the 21st. 20 days from when she handed them to me is up on Friday.  [/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I noticed today that one of the eggs has a small circular 'indent' in the shell and some very very tiny cracks, barely visible (needed my glasses). It doesn't smell at all.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I'm freaking out! I don't know if something is happening, I don't want to mess with it.  Apparently some bantams hatch on day 18 and if you include the Saturday they were laid on, tomorrow is day 18![/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I don't know what to do, I don't know if one of them is starting to hatch or something has gone wrong.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]OMG stress levels are now officially through the roof! lol[/COLOR]


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Leave it to the expert. The girls will do the right thing automatically. They are much smarter than us. But certainly help her out in the hot weather. Most of all enjoy the experience. :D
 
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Leave it to the expert. The girls will do the right thing automatically. They are much smarter than us. But certainly help her out in the hot weather. Most of all enjoy the experience.
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Thank you rexy, good advice that I am listening to, I am not doing anything and leaving her to it. I'm just a little concerned that I wasn't expecting anything until Friday and being a newbie I'm not sure if this is hatching (something I have never seen before) or something has gone wrong and the egg is damaged. Time will tell I guess, it is very exciting .. I actually can not believe just how excited I am..I just hope all it OK, the time factor is worrying.
 

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