Australorps breed Thread

[duluthralphie]

I know some of you will disagree with this, those charts are great over 90% of the time and if there was only 1 gene on one loci that controlled color they would be 100%.

That is not the case, things happen, genes mutate, a controlling gene can be damaged and so on.

Point in case, I had a rooster that had a pea comb, his parents were both single comb, an impossibility on the charts yet it happened. I say I had because I gave to bird to a person that does extensive breeding and genetics studies. Before you ask, there is no way I got the parentage wrong. I have very tight controlled breeding and hatching.

When you add in the Aussie connection it really throws things off. I do not know about chickens but I know in Turkeys Australia has some recessive genes we do not have here in the United States so the turkey genetics charts will not always predict the results correctly there.

Good luck on finding out what you have. Maybe you have the one in million rare mutation that will make you rich, patent his gene!

 

[appps]

Are things like combs the same as colours though? As in colour doesn't throw back to something in the great grandparents lineage but can things like combs? Like if I cross a black had a blue mother with another black I won't get a blue, but if I cross a single comb whose father had a rose comb with another single comb I could get a rose comb if that makes sense? I'm guessing the comb can throw back to way back generations, unlike colour, or it wouldn't be so hard to breed for particular traits without things you didn't want popping back up?

While I get what you are saying, every variation had to start with someone that didn't come out like they should have, those are pretty rare. I can only think of one amongst the million posts on here and that was someone got a silkie feathered large breed (can't remember what it was) with zero silkie blood in their lines.

 

[BlueBaby]

Rottnots post shows how the colours work. If he only has black they won't give splash. Fingers crossed for you he has added a few new colours lately as you need blue in the parents or two splash as that's the only way it can be splash. If either parent is black it just won't work.

appps, thanks for posting that chart. I printed it out for my own use.

 

[Turk Raphael]

Ahhhha...I managed NOT to do it Ron!!

 

[3riverschick]

Hi, hoping someone can steer me in the right direction with my mystery chick please.

I recently hatched chicks - Black Australorps and Barred Plymouth Rocks. These eggs were shipped to by the breeder who brings in fertile eggs directly out of Australia.

This 'odd' chick is nothing like I expected to hatch. The breeder does also breed Light Sussex and he suspects that this is what this chick might be. (Quietly, I hoping it might be a splash Australorp). Need the experts opinions please. The photo doesn't quite show the true coloring. The legs are slate, there is definitely a 'silver' patch on the top of the head, and a slight 'silvery' sheen on top of the yellow down on the body. Eyes are a deep black.

Hi.
Nope, it is not a Light Sussex. they are eWh/eWh S/S Co/Co. Based on the Wheaten Allele, with 2 doses of the Silver gene and 2 doses of the Columbian gene. ( this Columbian gene in 2 doses pushes the black to the extremities of the body including some wing feathers, the tail and the hackle.) In the chick, the proper color is pale yellow down . The skin in the Light Sussex is white so the shanks should be white, tho in the chick they can start out pale yellow and then turn white. No slate shanks in the breed. The eyes are reddish bay, no black eyes in the breed. Tho the Light Sussex chick carries 2 doses of the silver gene, there is no silver cast to the Light Sussex chick down. No head spots of any color either in the Light Sussex chick.
Best,
Karen

 

[thailand]

Wow Karen, thanks so much for your reply. So - I am left with a mystery chick...hmmm.

I've spoken to the breeder and he's said that he had tried to import splash Australorp eggs last year, but amongst others, they were the ones that were damaged and didn't hatch anything. He further commented, that it might be possible for there to be "some genetic markers" [for splash] but that this hadn't shown up previously, although could technically, supposedly be possible. He reiterated that his thoughts were that this was a Light Sussex chick, although it could also be an "experimental" cross breed chick.

Possibilities for a cross breed from his pens would be: Rhode Island White x Plymouth Rock.

The breeds he has are: Rhode Island White, Barred Plymouth Rocks, Rhode Island Reds, Black Australorps, Leghorns, English Game. He has noted that sometimes they breed "leghorn x australorp with touch of rir or any commerical layer".

So that seems to be my choices. Anyone able to pick what this yellowy/silvery downed chick might be??

Thanks

 

[TDVGray]

We have two black Australorps...almost 15 weeks old. One is definately a rooster as he is already crowing, but the other has not. We can see saddle feathers coming in on his back and they look pointy and glisteny. What does everyone think about the other one? Hen? Maybe please???

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Derrick


Derrick on left. Juniper on right

Derrick in front. Juniper by the fence.

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Juniper in front. Derrick by the fence.


thank you!

 

[lolahoff]

i am new to keeping chickens but id say they are roos

 

[Turk Raphael]

i am new to keeping chickens but id say they are roos

yep.

 

[RattlesnakeRidgeWV]

Sorry, both cockerels.
Kurt