Australorps breed Thread

[RossAussie]

Thank you Ross and Geoff..this has been a subject we have brought up several times..your input is very helpful to a lot of people ...I have a lot of green sheen here or flat black..I feed scrambled eggs to recovering birds from molt which contain sulfer ..

had one cockeral that developed a few purple barring on sholders after a predetor attack..he was depressed as his pullet was killed wouldnt eat for a 2 week period but recovered after wounds healed and gave him some new freinds....I know they call it stress barring ..there were three feathers that emerged after that attack with the barring..

G'day Aveca,

Purple sheen is usually the result of major stress in the fowl, or a poor quaility feed mix, or an unusual mixed line that breeds that colour. After your cockerel's attack it may have taken him ages to get his head back together. Even though they are supposed to have a short memory span, I reckon they are smarter than some of the "experts" would have us believe.

Regards,

Ross

 

[aveca]

[COLOR=000000]G’day Geoff,[/COLOR]
[COLOR=000000]I’ve read in many of my old books and publications about a few old poultrymen giving their fowls sulphur. They did this because Sulphur appears to turn green when moist. My late mother was always against giving Sulphur to the fowls as she always felt it wasn’t the best additive to give internally to any living thing. It does have its positive uses in some gardening conditions, and some external wounds.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]Sulphur can cause irritations of the eyes and the throat with animals, when the uptake takes place through inhalation of sulphur in the gaseous phase, therefore I wouldn’t be adding it to water or feed. The damaging effects of sulphur with animals are mostly brain damage, through malfunctioning of the hypothalamus, and damage to the nervous system.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]I have read many veterinary books regarding laboratory tests with test animals and they have indicated that sulphur can cause serious vascular damage in veins of the brains, the heart and the kidneys. These tests have also indicated that certain forms of sulphur can cause foetal damage to the eggs and congenital effects.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]Therefore I will stick to my natural methods, even though Sulphur is a natural mined substance, of Corn Oil and the edible oils used in the enhancement of coats of show cattle and horses.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]Regards[/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]Ross[/COLOR]

Scrambled eggs contain sulphur..

 

[RossAussie]

Scrambled eggs contain sulphur..

G’day,
Yes, I agree and there is nothing at all wrong with feeding small servings of scrambled eggs to your chicks. In fact I do a “special” mix using a form of cooked eggs for my chicks as well, but that is a natural sulphur within the egg and is a very small percentage.
Forms of Sulphur are also in many medicines and health formulas. I believe what Geoff was discussing was adding powdered-mined commercial Sulphur direct and that can be a negative aspect to the stock.

Regards,

Ross

 

[aveca]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]G’day,[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]Yes, I agree and there is nothing at all wrong with feeding small servings of scrambled eggs to your chicks. In fact I do a “special” mix using a form of cooked eggs for my chicks as well, but that is a natural sulphur within the egg and is a very small percentage.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]Forms of Sulphur are also in many medicines and health formulas. I believe what Geoff was discussing was adding powdered-mined commercial Sulphur direct and that can be a negative aspect to the stock.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]Regards,[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]Ross[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Good to know.Thanks...I also feed scrambled eggs and Some Greens As We Have long Winters Here to babies..there was world renowned sebright bantam breeder who only fed eggs and oats to the babies..so It's all interesting., any info is helpful

 

[ronott1]

Quote:

Quote: Giving them food with natural sulphur in it is good for them. Not the mined type. One of the feed ingredients has it in the feed we give them. Methaoline(?Spelling) is necessary for them to grow their wings.

 

[RossAussie]

Giving them food with natural sulphur in it is good for them. Not the mined type. One of the feed ingredients has it in the feed we give them. Methaoline(?Spelling) is necessary for them to grow their wings.

G’day Ron,
Yes, natural sulphur occurs in many foods, and in most cases is perfectly safe.

I think Methacolone is one of the cholinomimetics additives that some of the bigger broiler farms use in the waterers for their growers. I’m only a show poultry breeder so I don’t knowingly or purposely add Methacholine to my birds, but in saying that I just read the labels of the products I use for CRD, IT and ILT and that shows evidence of Methacholine by-products used in these medications. As you know CRD, IT and ILT partially affect the respiratory aspects of fowls which helps control the various airway issues of fowls.

However, not being a Veterinarian please don’t take my thoughts on this as absolute gospel, as I am not qualified on the subject.

Regards,

Ross

 

[aveca]

Its all a balancing act..Intersting info...Now I know what Methacholine does..there are a lot of minerals that they pick up right out of the soil such as selenium..

 

[Cockle-Dood]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]G’day,[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]That advice above is excellent. There's an old saying quoted by many old farmers and that is, "It costs exactly the same to feed good quality stock as it does average and poor quality stock, so start with the best quality initially to avoid disappointments later down the track.”[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]If your dream is to show good quality Australorps, or any breed for that matter, take your time and go to poultry shows even if it’s a long distance away. Seek the top breeders and exhibitors, save up that little extra money, and buy their fowls that they are showing or breeding with. That way you’ll get an immediate start to possibly good bloodlines.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]I know you’ll say it costs more initially, but buying chickens from hatcheries who are there just to make a profit is, in my eyes, just a waste of money if you want good show stock.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]The secret to buying the top stock is time and research. Also buying cheap culls is simply a waste of money as many have faults. I’ve always said when people select my fowls, “Long after the price is forgotten the quality still remains.”[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]Regards,[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=9.75pt][COLOR=000000]Ross[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Thank you ross! I completely understand what you are saying about starting off with quality. Thank you for the reply!

 

[Cockle-Dood]

This is elvis....3.5 wk Black australorp. s/he is my sweetest one of the 8 brooder-mates! this lil birdy is what got me excited about ausies.

 

[RattlesnakeRidgeWV]

Aveca,
Good luck with your hatch! Mine arrived today, after resting for about 10 hours they went in the bator tonight. I think I will post their growth rate every two weeks like the TigerCreek 5 if there are no objections to from the folks on this thread. I have not seen that done for quite a while. What do the masses think? I did speak to our benefactor tonight on the phone.