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Ross,
I did send you a second PM which the BYC folk inform me went astray. I explained that I would stay off for a while to let you get to know folk and that I didn't want to deprive them of your great knowledge and experience. Glad that you appear to accept that I'm not an imposter. I am a 'nobody' on the Australian Australorp scene, but I've never suggested that I was anything but a passionate BA novice breeder on here. Found folk here in similar positions and thought I'd share what I learn from this end. I do feel a little strange being a 62 year old novice. I've kept Australorps, from backyard scrubbers to quite well bred birds, for over 40 years, so I do have a familiarity with the breed. I did breed and show a few Langshans 30 yeas ago until 'outfoxed'. Still breed a few bantam Langies. I decided when I retired at 60, that I'd have a crack at breeding some Australorps to Standard. Reckoned I might have 10 good years left to produce some half decent birds. So, that's where I'm at. I'll post some pics of the cull as it progresses and I'd be very interested in your comments. Happy to discuss 'weightier issues' when the dust settles a little. Didn't know I was taking on a bloody monster ex rugby player! Reckon I might be able to outrun/ 'outshuffle' you in your current condition though.
Regards Geoff
 
Gramma Chick said:
Dan I am not a OT ..but it sounds to me like she may have a broken egg shell or blockage of some kind ..inside
It sure sounds like there is something wrong in there .
I wouldnt say Gleet as they still act pretty normal when they have gleet .
They just have this pasty butt thing that smells ...& it looks icky .
I hope she gets better . Deborah
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G'day Dan,

It sounds like Deborah's diagnosis on your hen's problem is pretty close to the mark.
Assuming she is still with you just use a medical finger glove and a syringe and gently syringe the vent area out with an ever-so mild mix of luke warm water and a tiny amount of general human grade disinfectant. This will help clean her out and make her more comfortable.

Poke your gloved finger up there and gently feel around for any egg pieces and gently remove them.
She also may have produced a follow up egg which may have had a weak shell and what you may have seen was the outer and inner shell membrane with sections of albumin and no real shell.

If she lives ok, I would follow up with a course of vitamins and some extra shell grit in her fed and isolate her for a few days.

Regards,
Ross
 
groche said:
Ross,
I did send you a second PM which the BYC folk inform me went astray. I explained that I would stay off for a while to let you get to know folk and that I didn't want to deprive them of your great knowledge and experience. Glad that you appear to accept that I'm not an imposter. I am a 'nobody' on the Australian Australorp scene, but I've never suggested that I was anything but a passionate BA novice breeder on here. Found folk here in similar positions and thought I'd share what I learn from this end. I do feel a little strange being a 62 year old novice. I've kept Australorps, from backyard scrubbers to quite well bred birds, for over 40 years, so I do have a familiarity with the breed. I did breed and show a few Langshans 30 yeas ago until 'outfoxed'. Still breed a few bantam Langies. I decided when I retired at 60, that I'd have a crack at breeding some Australorps to Standard. Reckoned I might have 10 good years left to produce some half decent birds. So, that's where I'm at. I'll post some pics of the cull as it progresses and I'd be very interested in your comments. Happy to discuss 'weightier issues' when the dust settles a little. Didn't know I was taking on a bloody monster ex rugby player! Reckon I might be able to outrun/ 'outshuffle' you in your current condition though.
Regards Geoff
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G'day Geoff and everyone,

The issue over the APS Committee's anomalies isn't just with Australorps. It is with many breeds and the majority of breed clubs aren’t overly happy. You might notice that in the Australorp Club’s “snippets” they actually praise the committee up, but there are some clear mistakes and the Australorp weights are just one. The issue the club was grizzling about was the fact that they asked for a minimal .25g increase, which is fairly minor.
You might also notice that there is no provision for Cock, Hen, Cockerel and Pullet for the Bantam, just Male and Female. Anyway enough about that.

I also breed Large & Bantam Langshans and Campines and I might drop a few pictures in every now and then. The early make up of the Australorp uses a lot of Langshan blood as that gets the feather tighter. Some serious breeders will do a five generation program as it takes that long to get the obvious Langshan traits out of them. They often will then produce a throw-back. Another interesting factor is that the Australian farmers improved William Cook's original concept by using rare Black Sport Plymouth Rock in the mix in the early 1900’s.

Those breeding "fluffy" Australorps simply have no idea how to put a breeding team together. To be quite blunt, It's not the fowls, it's inexperience of some of the breeders. I've seen it time and time again in the show pens here.

For our American friends life was fairly difficult from the start as the original Australorps imported from Australia to the USA in April 1924 were just a basic commercial variety and not a show bench fowl, hence the throw back issues.

I assume that most of the American breeders know their first import history of the Australorp. If not I can let you all know in another post, if you wanted me to.

Regards,

Ross
 
RossAussie said:
G'day Dan,

It sounds like Deborah's diagnosis on your hen's problem is pretty close to the mark.
Assuming she is still with you just use a medical finger glove and a syringe and gently syringe the vent area out with an ever-so mild mix of luke warm water and a tiny amount of general human grade disinfectant. This will help clean her out and make her more comfortable.

Poke your gloved finger up there and gently feel around for any egg pieces and gently remove them.
She also may have produced a follow up egg which may have had a weak shell and what you may have seen was the outer and inner shell membrane with sections of albumin and no real shell.

If she lives ok, I would follow up with a course of vitamins and some extra shell grit in her fed and isolate her for a few days.

Regards,
Ross
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Ross - Thanks for the information. Today she was up and scratching around first thing, then 30 minutes after hitting the lawn, she went into that same plastic dog house I keep in the yard for the birds, and I thought surely she's not feeling well. I was surprised when I looked in the box a while later and saw an egg, a clean normal looking aussie egg. She is not 100% let me be clear, but yesterday her craw was empty and I did syringe a mixture of water, feed, and kefir into her as well as some water with antibiotic. Tonight when I put them up, I felt her craw and it was buldging full with matter. She is still at times flat backed but for the most part, she stayed out today and foraged about her yard. You all know how they go off their food and water which is what generally kills them sooner than the malady. So I feel somewhat relieved to know she is eating and drinking.
 
Hello Geoff

I've been wondering about your culling chore and how it is going for you. Will be interested in seeing more photos and hearing your account of the goings on.

Dan
 
Dan,
Glad she seems to be doing better. I have hatched about 40 BA's and about 20 of the boss's EE's. I have another 40 of the same in the other incubator. Need some babies???
On this friday the "Tigercreek 5" will debut for their 6 week photo shoot. If you check my profile you will see day olds, 2 week, 4 week, and 6 week on Friday.
I don't know who will win but it looks to me to be 3 cockerels and only 2 pullets. We will see on Friday.
 
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