great discussion geoff, but it becomes a dead thread when people tell lies and such about other breeders..such as myself..this person has bombarded people with lies in pms about me selling eggs and part bred birds, so we will clear this up right now and i thought i did this once ..i have never , ever sold an egg or a bird..i have given lots of eggs away and birds to 4h kids and people who just want them for the back yard..hatched some last year for 4 H kids..i have only spent money on chickens, never made one thin dime, and intend to hatch more for any family or kids who ask me to...the word of the day is FREE, or given as in gifted. ive said about a hundred times, here is 101... i have not produced australorps that i have felt were a quality to sell, there for they were FREE..and yes/a couple of them won some impressive awards for kids..
im also not sure how breeding hatchery anstralorp to show adustralorp is cross breeding? especially when stock is so scarce so perhaps somone can clear that one up for me...
so there, now back to discussion...they obviously used orpington in the creation of australorps early on..by the looks of the birds in australia, my eye says they had to have used the early cook type leaning english orpington..by the tail, the depth of the body and some a bit more up on the leg which in part comes through langshan added..in america there are a few very good old lines of show australorp..in the american standard which i think should be able to be scanned and posted here for reference including picture and yes it is about circa 1920.. calls for a longer more elegant neck..many of us arestruggeling between liking what we see in australia and perhaps keeping that touch of elegance , not quite as cobby as some of australias, somewhere inbeteen the 2 lies the perfect bird..so what type orpington is suggested, i know queensland held out a vote on inducting australorp into their standard because they wanted to keep a tighter feather which in your breeding communities means better utility egg laying to australian breeders..can the englush be worked in then back out to correct some issues like pope nose tails, tail tenting in back incorrect ect ect..?
im also not sure how breeding hatchery anstralorp to show adustralorp is cross breeding? especially when stock is so scarce so perhaps somone can clear that one up for me...
so there, now back to discussion...they obviously used orpington in the creation of australorps early on..by the looks of the birds in australia, my eye says they had to have used the early cook type leaning english orpington..by the tail, the depth of the body and some a bit more up on the leg which in part comes through langshan added..in america there are a few very good old lines of show australorp..in the american standard which i think should be able to be scanned and posted here for reference including picture and yes it is about circa 1920.. calls for a longer more elegant neck..many of us arestruggeling between liking what we see in australia and perhaps keeping that touch of elegance , not quite as cobby as some of australias, somewhere inbeteen the 2 lies the perfect bird..so what type orpington is suggested, i know queensland held out a vote on inducting australorp into their standard because they wanted to keep a tighter feather which in your breeding communities means better utility egg laying to australian breeders..can the englush be worked in then back out to correct some issues like pope nose tails, tail tenting in back incorrect ect ect..?
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