Ayam Cemani Sexing - Roo?

He's still sitting on eggs, but looking more like a rooster these days so *thank you all* for your guidance! An interesting development here is that these little beautiful golden flecks in his feathers that are starting to appear. Any idea what could cause that? I thought it was debris, but nope 🤷‍♀️
Unfortunately that’s an AC flaw. I’ve never seen the leakage on a hen or pullet. It’s always on the boys and they don’t start to develop it until at least four to six months when they get their big boy feathers and lose the last of the baby down. In the show, and for breeding the boys with leakage are a DQ and shouldn’t be bred. But the truth is, the gene pool in the USA is so small that you roll the dice. I place these guys in pet homes (I breed and have over 100 cemani). Is the bird pictured the one with the leakage ? I’d say the one in this photo sure appears to be a pullet but if there’s leakage I’d say boy. AC hens can have really large combs sometimes. They can fool you for sure now and then with gender. More often than not it’s clear from hatch what they are but once and a while you get that confusing one. I find the disposition is a telltale sign. And the way they interact with flock mates too. But then again, hens can be super bossy. So that’s not fool proof either.
on a side note- and strictly my personal opinion, I think the boys with leakage are stunning. Maybe one day they’ll become a separate variety. I know I’m wishful thinking but one can dream. Out of about400 cemani I’ve had 4 with leakage. So in my three lines, about 1% and they only came from one too who has since passed. After his first gen clutches with the roos with leakage, we stopped breeding that line because I’m sure the hens can pass it on even if they don’t exhibit the phenotype themselves.
good luck- hen or roo- ac are fun! And unique.
 
It looks like a boy to me. I'm a boy(has no relevance).
Some hens decide to crow and some roosters decide to sit on eggs. The human mind baffles at the thoughts which pass through chickens heads.
It's just one of those things.

If IT lays an egg it's a female.
 
That is leakage.
Do you happen to have an updated pic of him? I’m curious to see how he developed 😍

We unfortunately have to give my buddy away (too many roosters) but he turned out to be beautiful, even with the mulberry coloring that came in super late all at once.

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We unfortunately have to give my buddy away (too many roosters) but he turned out to be beautiful, even with the mulberry coloring that came in super late all at once.

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Here’s our “pet cull” if you will, he’s great. He lives among us humans and has free range of the people turf in our 20,000 square foot building. He’s bonded so deeply with humans after being imprinted and then injured and nursed back to health as an adolescent that he prefers humans to hens- and all that it implies (now and then he’ll jump up on one of our laps and go to town on a knee so fast you don’t have time to tell him no and put him on the ground before he .... ummmm.... feels satisfied, if you will- just one problem with Uber imprinted birds I suppose). He is the coolest boy. He even goes for rides with my man-friend And the girls at the feed mill adore him when they hear him coming (he’s VERY chatty and announced his arrival to all). As cold as it gets here it’s a probably a good thing he lives in our heated building without any roost-cuddle-buddies :). It was clear very early on that he wasn’t show or breeding quality, so being hurt and not a “sell to a pet home option” with the injured leg (I believe it was actually fractured by a dominant rooster who was a flock mate and turned on him one day despite the presence of hens in their bachelor coop). He was in really really rough shape after an afternoon of severe bullying - covered in blood (for those of you wondering- it is only a rumor that these birds have black blood - it is red. Black would be an impossibility in a warm blooded creature to the best of my knowledge. Or maybe any creature?) anyway, he was also completely immobile. Laying flat on his side. Considering he wasn’t going to be part of our breeding or exhibition program, I wondered in that moment if most people would have euthanized him. For me, it wasn’t an option especially because, although hurting, his spirits seemed high as I carefully laid him in a sink with about a half inch of warm water to assess the situation and wipe away the blood. What’s funny is every time I’m at the sink he got that very bath in over a year ago, he runs over talking a mile a minute. When I do let him take a bath you’d think he was parrot not a chicken. Anyway, without rambling to much more, I’ll say this: he’s better than a dog as far as watching the property- and better than our Shepard at scaring people off with a crow. Not sure why people are so scared of male chickens but they are. Funny thing is he doesn’t have a mean bone in his body. He comes when called and would follow me through a very crowded place in an area he isn’t familiar with- without getting distracted (I tested the theory). He even knows what “no” and “down” and “come” and “get” means. And listens. And to prove how very tolerate he is, here is a picture while he entertained us while wearing a “cat saddle” (a Halloween costume for our feline pal that we never used) over Christmas. He knew everyone was fussing over him with it on so he stood there crowing so very proud ! It was great.
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this guy is great. I’d tell you his name but I’m embarrassed because (spoiler alert) my son named him after a septic pumping truck. And he definitely knows his goofy name...

now, on the other hand, our breeding program rooster, black jack, as nice and easy to handle as is, he would never tolerate something like pictured above.

I guess when you breed for good disposition (not that you always get it) and fate adds to the twist of irony (the injury) it boils down to an exceptional pet rooster. I’ll have to admit, I’ve never had one like this before! And prob never will again!

Your boy, mulberry and all is very pretty. I bet you were sad when you had to give him up. Do you have a breeder cemani roo? If so, can you post a photo?

oh and if you’re wondering why he’s a pet quality bird, the back of his comb twists and leans subtly to one side. If you look closely at the photo you can see it. It’s not a DQ technically- but we wouldn’t want to pass it on to offspring. We do have a roo about as close to the current AC SOP that I’ve ever seen that was hatched in September of 2019. Here’s a picture of his head. This is actually a color photo! No leakage at all. His body is equally as beautiful.
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Our breeding program rooster for our cemani flock. His name is black Jack.
 
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