B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

[Rocky Maley]

Thank you. Sounds simaler to a gold duckwing.

Rocky

 

[ki4got]

Thank you. Sounds simaler to a gold duckwing.

Rocky

similar, yes, but a gold duckwing is heterozygous for silver, and only exists in the roosters, since hens can't be heterozygous for a sex-linked trait. this is something totally different, which IMO involves the dominant dilute mutation, as well as the melanizing gene and possibly a couple other modifying traits.

I'm currently working on a project to establish a true-breeding variety. the SOP describes hens of one type and roos of another IMO. they don't seem to breed very true so you get a variety of results from them. my hens will match the roos in color (aka straw hackles, lighter body with dark striping and black tipped salmon breast feathers)

 

[Rockashelle]

similar, yes, but a gold duckwing is heterozygous for silver, and only exists in the roosters, since hens can't be heterozygous for a sex-linked trait.  this is something totally different, which IMO involves the dominant dilute mutation, as well as the melanizing gene and possibly a couple other modifying traits.

I'm currently working on a project to establish a true-breeding variety. the SOP describes hens of one type and roos of another IMO. they don't seem to breed very true so you get a variety of results from them.  my hens will match the roos in color (aka straw hackles, lighter body with dark striping and black tipped salmon breast feathers)

Ki4got - Do you have this book? Very interesting what so if e ole' timers say about colored or "coloured" dorkings.

A fellow named Jim Marland talks about "Ludlow" coloured darks. He says the blacker the better. However, later in in the book there is a picture of a hen that looks a lot like your little experimental breeding pullet you posted a page or so back. I can only tell shading as its a black & white photo. I'll post it in a few.

 

[Rockashelle]

I see the chest feathers on this hen that looks like just what you were talking about with the genes. The photo is better in the book. I took this picture of it with my phone and it isn't as good.

 

[Rockashelle]

The book also mentions Spangled coloured dorkings.
"The characteristics of the spangled cock are light purple, tipped with black or brown; the same hues on the back; wings rich dark brown interspersed with black and white; primary feathers in wing and tail white; hackle feathers, mineral green."

Have you studied this? It says that this color is passed down from the hen and hard to recreate because pullets get their color from that of the cock. I thought it was interesting.

 

[ki4got]

Yes, i have the book. but IMO some of the 'old timer' inheritance is a bit off...

and yes, i have 2 girls that resemble the 'dark' dorking pictured. not sure if i'm going to follow that trend or what. depends on what colors i get from sandhill, what the roos that match my lighter girls look like, and a few other *if's* LOL.

the image you posted is much like my 'dark' dorking girl, "blitz"...



her coloration has gotten more distinct as she's moulted out some more.

 

[Rockashelle]

Yes! My girls look a tad darker with more salmon coloring but almost black heads. I've been reading your gene posts and really looking my girls over. Two of my pullets have more "rust" in their salmon colors and the hackles look straw colored lined in black. They don't look like the reds I've seen though. I'm still focusing on type at this point but I'm following your color lead for when that time comes in hopes of FINALLY understanding melanizing, blah blah... Alleles etc. LOL!

 

[ki4got]

Yes! My girls look a tad darker with more salmon coloring but almost black heads. I've been reading your gene posts and really looking my girls over. Two of my pullets have more "rust" in their salmon colors and the hackles look straw colored lined in black. They don't look like the reds I've seen though. I'm still focusing on type at this point but I'm following your color lead for when that time comes in hopes of FINALLY understanding melanizing, blah blah... Alleles etc. LOL!

do you have any clear, detailed pics you can post of them?

 

[Rockashelle]

do you have any clear, detailed pics you can post of them? 

I can try and get some. I wish I had your camera! Lol... My old avatar pic is the darkest hen. The others are the same color everywhere but their hackle feathers are more... "coppery".

 

[Rockashelle]

These are horrible body shots, but show their colors true. From this angle they don't show their cinderblock shape and look too upright... (not so, they do need work hut not as much as this picture illustrates)