B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

[ki4got]

Quote: could be blue or dun, but neither are accepted colors. in a hen, champagne blond, dilute or inhibitor of gold all dilute red pigments. silver does also but only on roos when it's heterozygous - since it's sex linked a hen will either be red or silver. no inbetween.

IMO, dilute may be involved with the coloreds, but that's part of a project i'm working on (as you've heard previously) which is on hold at the moment since i'm lacking breeding pen space. and the fact that all my mature colored girls are broody at the moment!

i've got 7 broody dorkings and 2 cochins currently! not forgetting my buff orp supermomma who's now ranging with her 9 remaining chicks (started with 32, sold a bunch 2 weeks ago and 6 more yesterday!) and fortunately, unlike previous broodies, she doesn't spaz when i catch her and the chicks to go to a swap but is calm and quiet, letting me handle the chicks without much fuss.

here she is with her 15 (prior to yesterday's swap) of mostly dorking chicks. it's working out, i sell some every couple weeks and as they grow she can continue covering them all.

 

[pysankigirl]

could be blue or dun, but neither are accepted colors. in a hen, champagne blond, dilute or inhibitor of gold all dilute red pigments. silver does also but only on roos when it's heterozygous - since it's sex linked a hen will either be red or silver. no inbetween.

IMO, dilute may be involved with the coloreds, but that's part of a project i'm working on (as you've heard previously) which is on hold at the moment since i'm lacking breeding pen space. and the fact that all my mature colored girls are broody at the moment!

Well, I discovered recently that I have Mg in my flock, so it is now closed and I cannot show or be a breeder. So my breeding career is over before it is started. So what are considered accepted colors I could care less about. LOL. I am just breeding now for me.

(They are totally asymptomatic so I am not willing to depopulate and the state doesn't care, they said. Evidently so many people have it and don't know it that it isn't a biq deal to them if I am not near any of the major poultry producers. We have it in our local finch population so we are screwed unless we want to house them indoors only...not interested!)

But this little girl is so pretty... I have been carrying her around the house just to look at her and I want to figure out how I can make more in case something happens to her.

 

[alisar]

could be blue or dun, but neither are accepted colors. in a hen, champagne blond, dilute or inhibitor of gold all dilute red pigments. silver does also but only on roos when it's heterozygous - since it's sex linked a hen will either be red or silver. no inbetween.

IMO, dilute may be involved with the coloreds, but that's part of a project i'm working on (as you've heard previously) which is on hold at the moment since i'm lacking breeding pen space. and the fact that all my mature colored girls are broody at the moment!

i've got 7 broody dorkings and 2 cochins currently! not forgetting my buff orp supermomma who's now ranging with her 9 remaining chicks (started with 32, sold a bunch 2 weeks ago and 6 more yesterday!) and fortunately, unlike previous broodies, she doesn't spaz when i catch her and the chicks to go to a swap but is calm and quiet, letting me handle the chicks without much fuss.

here she is with her 15 (prior to yesterday's swap) of mostly dorking chicks. it's working out, i sell some every couple weeks and as they grow she can continue covering them all.

 

[ki4got]

Quote: pictures when you can then?

 

[ki4got]

What a good momma

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she's been travelling to swaps with her brood, and is so good about it all. even when people take her chicks away. but let another chicken near them and it's WWIII 8)

 

[heritagehabitatfarms]

i think most small flocks have or carry something or the other... Around here its foul pox i have not seen a flock in this area that does not have it and most ppl have no clue... our State extension poultry specialist showed us pic's of a bio secure facility... Roofed over run with 2 fences 3 ft apart with 3 layers of fence in each fence (1in chicken wire, 1/2 in hardware cloth, 1/32 in window screen) he said that if you did not have your birds inside a sealed building or in a run built like this your birds will catch some kind of disease within 1 year... and that is if they where clean to begin with lol...

Well, I discovered recently that I have Mg in my flock, so it is now closed and I cannot show or be a breeder. So my breeding career is over before it is started. So what are considered accepted colors I could care less about. LOL. I am just breeding now for me.

(They are totally asymptomatic so I am not willing to depopulate and the state doesn't care, they said. Evidently so many people have it and don't know it that it isn't a biq deal to them if I am not near any of the major poultry producers. We have it in our local finch population so we are screwed unless we want to house them indoors only...not interested!)

But this little girl is so pretty... I have been carrying her around the house just to look at her and I want to figure out how I can make more in case something happens to her.

 

[pysankigirl]

i think most small flocks have or carry something or the other... Around here its foul pox i have not seen a flock in this area that does not have it and most ppl have no clue... our State extension poultry specialist showed us pic's of a bio secure facility... Roofed over run with 2 fences 3 ft apart with 3 layers of fence in each fence (1in chicken wire, 1/2 in hardware cloth, 1/32 in window screen) he said that if you did not have your birds inside a sealed building or in a run built like this your birds will catch some kind of disease within 1 year... and that is if they where clean to begin with lol...

I know, that's pretty much what they told me here, too...and my birds are completely asymptomatic so it isn't a bad strain of it, but how can I in good conscience sell or show if I know I have something that in some places is reportable? and it comes through the eqqs, too, so I cant even do eqqs. I was pretty depressed about it at first...heck, I am still pretty depressed, but I wont kill all my birds when they have no symptoms and I wont put them in a biq building never to see the light of day. I read statistics that said 75-90% of backyard flocks have it and it is an epidemic within the finch population on the east coast.(they call it house finch conjunctivitis) but the state would make me depopulate if I lived near any commercial poultry growers. and once birds get over it, a portion of them are still carriers. so any new birds will get it

it is a quandary. evidently depopulating is the only way to get rid of it. It is really expensive to test for in its latent state ($75 per bird) so you cant even test your flock to see who the carriers are. and if 75-90%of people do have it and depopulated, we would lose entire breeds. And if it is as mild as our case...I don't see that as a good trade off. (not even touching the wild bird population that supposedly has it as well)

but I still would feel I would have to warn everyone away from my birds. am I just being OCD again?

I wonder how the people who show birds do it without contracting every bird illness out there if it is so easy to transmit. or qo to swaps. I've never even taken my birds to a sow or a swap and they somehow got it!

I don't know if I am taking this way too seriously, but not sure I can help it.

 

[PineTopFarm]

I know, that's pretty much what they told me here, too...and my birds are completely asymptomatic so it isn't a bad strain of it, but how can I in good conscience sell or show if I know I have something that in some places is reportable?  and it comes through the eqqs, too, so I cant even do eqqs.  I was pretty depressed about it at first...heck, I am still pretty depressed, but I wont kill all my birds when they have no symptoms and I wont put them in a biq building never to see the light of day.  I read statistics that said 75-90% of backyard flocks have it and it is an epidemic within the finch population on the east coast.(they call it house finch conjunctivitis)  but the state would make me depopulate if I lived near any commercial poultry growers. and once birds get over it, a portion of them are still carriers.  so any new birds will get it

it is a quandary.  evidently depopulating is the only way to get rid of it. It is really expensive to test for in its latent state ($75 per bird) so you cant even test your flock to see who the carriers are. and if 75-90%of people do have it and depopulated, we would lose entire breeds.  And if it is as mild as our case...I don't see that as a good trade off.  (not even touching the wild bird population that supposedly has it as well)

but I still would feel I would have to warn everyone away from my birds.  am I just being OCD again?

I wonder how the people who show birds do it without contracting every bird illness out there if it is so easy to transmit.  or qo to swaps.  I've never even taken my birds to a sow or a swap and they somehow got it!

I don't know if I am taking this way too seriously, but not sure I can help it.

So what prompted you to get tested? From what I see few breeders are NPIP so I've always felt it was a "buyer beware" situation when I bought birds from breeders. I breed for my own utility so provided my flock looks and acts healthy I'm good.

 

[pysankigirl]

So what prompted you to get tested? From what I see few breeders are NPIP so I've always felt it was a "buyer beware" situation when I bought birds from breeders. I breed for my own utility so provided my flock looks and acts healthy I'm good.

I brought in some adult birds. had them in quarantine for 10 weeks with no symptoms in the middle of the winter. They got sick AFTER being exposed to my birds. The only thing that makes sense is that my birds must be carriers.

And evidently even NPIP isn't safe...they don't make you test for anything but pullorium and sometimes Avian influenza. Mg is an optional thing.

 

[PineTopFarm]

I brought in some adult birds.  had them in quarantine for 10 weeks with no symptoms in the middle of the winter.  They got sick AFTER being exposed to my birds.  The only thing that makes sense is that my birds must be carriers. 

And evidently even NPIP isn't safe...they don't make you test for anything but pullorium and sometimes Avian influenza.  Mg is an optional thing.

This is a risk we all take unless we have a closed, "bio secure" flock. I hope this doesn't dampen your enthusiasm for breeding long term.