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[turbo]

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You should sell that top pair to me.....

 

[linda_zeagler31002]

Mrs. Turbo :

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To clarify- I didn't mean your advice. I meant the advice that is floating around about breeding Grey to Snowy and then the F1 offspring together to get 25% Snowy. That advice, that I think is originally from the Holderread book, is based on the mistaken assumption that Snowy is Grey based (wild-type) when it isn't. I didn't mean your advice. I would still breed Snowy to Snowy if at all possible.

If that is absolutely not possible AND a person has the level of knowledge necessary to cull the off-color birds (as the Foleys do), then breeding Snowy to Grey and then back to the Snowy parent is not going to be as bad as the first scenario that is frequently quoted. You will certainly have less mismarked birds going the route Mrs. Turbo suggests. No doubt about it. You still will have some though and need to be able to recognize them and not use them for future breeding. There are enough Snowies available though that I think the quicker route for most people to improve their stock would be to breed Snowy to Snowy.

I know you didn't....

We are also still learning and sometimes the best way to do that is to breed 2 together and see what happens....just keep good records.
We don't ever breed brother & sister... only mother to son and father to daughter when we have a good line going.​

Now I am curious, why not brother & sister? And say mother A and son B = child daughter D and father E = child daughter F and son B? Child son B and mother A= Child daughter G and Father E? Father E and Daughter G= son C?

 

[linda_zeagler31002]

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Well I am going to have to say, I have just had a straight mess with this issue, my first 2-pair of white calls, only one pair laid last spring, and she laid 4 eggs, well 1/2 way through her setting she decided she didn't want to be a momma, and deserted the nest, and I took the eggs and placed in a hovabator waffer style, and placed $125 dollars in phone calls, read day and night researching, learned how to candle eggs, killed one, but hatched 3 a piece of egg shell at a time daily, and of the three all hens, and this was just luck or a miracle because, since then I have tried to hatch taking eggs daily out of my nest, purchasing eggs, and I am a complete failure, I have tried hovabator waffer incubator, hovabator genisis, Sportsman 1502, little giant both still and forced air, with egg turners, without egg turners, with goose turner so egg was on side, with digital thermometer and humidity readers, with wet and dry bulb style, if some one has wrote information on it from the UK to Russia, I have probally read it, and it just kills me that I am a failure at Mandarin and Call duck eggs, and have been hatching eggs since age 12 and 41 yrs old now, I hatched turtle eggs in a dish pan, hatched quail eggs in a electric frying pan, but can't hatch this particular egg, oh and bought cochin and silkies chickens to have broody chickens and I might add, I haven't had a broody cochin or silkie yet, Haha, and I just hate to keep killing what could be in my heart I believe a teriffic show duck, and almost sold all my calls this fall, due to the heartache of all the hard work, time, money and love I had invested, but encouraged myself to try it one more time this spring, then I just don't know..........sigh......

 

[KansasKid]

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Because when breeding mother to son or father to daughter they only share half of each others genetic material but when you breed Sister to Brother both share the exact same genetic material and presumably you could end up causing unwanted mutations color and body wise.

 

[AliciaM]

Here are a couple pics of my calls.. can someone tell me what color they are? I was told that 2 of them, scotch and daisy, are butterscotch.. and quakers a snowy....

Quakers and scotch look alike so im not sure..

In the first picture, Quakers is the one on top.

Also.. they have been breeding like crazy.. is this normal for this time of year?? Im getting at least 2 eggs a day.... And I dont eat duck eggs.. LOL... I got the calls cuz there cute..

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

they look like butterscotch mix

 

[briarpatchfarms]

I was thinking they looked like Blue Butterscotch on the light side though, The males look light in color as well.

Hey Mrs. Turbo with Blue Butterscotch being the blue spectrum of the Silver Appleyard that two of these could be first Generation Silver and one could accually be blue Butterscotch???
Im not familiar with this color, dont know how those work???

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

here is a blue butterscotch hen

I don't know...maybe bad colored ones, but that color is still all over the place. It is hard to know for sure sometimes. they are still very pretty ducks

here are pictures of "butterscotch" call ducks so you can compare them.

 

[farmnfowl]

Would not By Breeder a brother and sister together produce birds more like the parents and faster than father to son mother to daughter.Assuming you are trying to replicate one or both of the Parent stock.After all if your going to inbreed you might as well go all the way.Inbred= mother to son Father to daughter and brother to sister.Line bred is totally different the relatives are much more distant example Father to Great grandaughter etc.

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

I am sure the color genetic people will come on and tell us what they could be.