Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

[tls_ranch]

Here is a question for all of you Barnie breeders out there who are able to pick up on the slightest characteristics in your birds which has improved the breed so much the last 5 years.

This year I seem to have an unbundance of Roos. I really want to promote good lacing and all of my bird came from respectably well laced hens. Is there any tips or tricks to pick out a rooster who will promote good lacing? i.e. lacing on the neck, saddle, or on adolescent wing or tail feathers, etc.?

~Al

I have been selecting cockerels with good wing/shoulder lacing at around 8-10 weeks old. I look for clean double lacing without a lot of peppering or breaks in the pattern. Not the best pic, I had to grab a cockerel off the roost in the dark LOL.




Here is the lacing on my splash pullet. She has just ok lacing, not very well laced on her wings or body, but shows some promise on her breast. Some of the feathers are clearly double laced, but others are near single laced. But at least she has a nice dark red/bay color. She is still very young at around 10 weeks old and her feathers are just coming in. Hopefully she will show more of the double laced pattern. As it is the lacing is just too broad to clearly show the pattern.




My favorite hen has gone broody, so I gave her most of the cockerel chicks to raise up that just hatched. She is sooo happpy, LOL. She has at least 20 of them, but seems to be doing just fine covering them at night for now.




Trisha

 

[Helen in the Desert]

Yes, but please read more about shank and toe feathering genetics to be sure that I said it all correctly. I can get things mixed from time to time.

Here is something that were just discussing over in the Blue Copper Marans thread about the dominant shank feathering genes and clean legs. I know it does not pertain to Barnevelders, but since the discussion of the feather stubs came up, I think it might be ok.

Here is a link to some leg fand foot feathering genetics. Scroll through until you come to the section on foot feathering. Not much on there but explains the different in types. Brahma vs. Langshan

www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations1.html


Later when time allows I can find you some more links to good materials on leg feathering.

Thanks, I will read up on it!

 

[BantamCastle]

I have been selecting cockerels with good wing/shoulder lacing at around 8-10 weeks old. I look for clean double lacing without a lot of peppering or breaks in the pattern. Not the best pic, I had to grab a cockerel off the roost in the dark LOL. Here is the lacing on my splash pullet. She has just ok lacing, not very well laced on her wings or body, but shows some promise on her breast. Some of the feathers are clearly double laced, but others are near single laced. But at least she has a nice dark red/bay color. She is still very young at around 10 weeks old and her feathers are just coming in. Hopefully she will show more of the double laced pattern. As it is the lacing is just too broad to clearly show the pattern. My favorite hen has gone broody, so I gave her most of the cockerel chicks to raise up that just hatched. She is sooo happpy, LOL. She has at least 20 of them, but seems to be doing just fine covering them at night for now. Trisha

Thank you Trisha this is great. I will use this to help me sort through the mess if roos that I have right now. Also, thanks for grabbing a picture in the dark! Your broody hen is beautiful and she looks good with all those chicks! Thanks, ~Al

 

[Chickenman76]

I have been selecting cockerels with good wing/shoulder lacing at around 8-10 weeks old. I look for clean double lacing without a lot of peppering or breaks in the pattern. Not the best pic, I had to grab a cockerel off the roost in the dark LOL.




Here is the lacing on my splash pullet. She has just ok lacing, not very well laced on her wings or body, but shows some promise on her breast. Some of the feathers are clearly double laced, but others are near single laced. But at least she has a nice dark red/bay color. She is still very young at around 10 weeks old and her feathers are just coming in. Hopefully she will show more of the double laced pattern. As it is the lacing is just too broad to clearly show the pattern.




My favorite hen has gone broody, so I gave her most of the cockerel chicks to raise up that just hatched. She is sooo happpy, LOL. She has at least 20 of them, but seems to be doing just fine covering them at night for now.




Trisha

 

[HenDaddy]

Hey everyone! I recently have bough some of Trisha's birds (not directly from her, but her same line) I read this almost everyday and absolutely love all of the information on here!

But for the person who was asking about the black laced birds when breeding with blue and blue, I also have bought BLRW from Jerry foley and he has told me when you breed blue to blue, every other year breed back to a black roo to keep the blue more consistent and I'm sure it would keep the black nice as well.

 

[tls_ranch]

Hey everyone! I recently have bough some of Trisha's birds (not directly from her, but her same line) I read this almost everyday and absolutely love all of the information on here!

But for the person who was asking about the black laced birds when breeding with blue and blue, I also have bought BLRW from Jerry foley and he has told me when you breed blue to blue, every other year breed back to a black roo to keep the blue more consistent and I'm sure it would keep the black nice as well.

That sounds like good advice since he is knowledgable about breeding patterned blue breeds.

I got an ok pic of one of my best roos yesterday.

 

[RachaelS]

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Wow Trisha, he looks good

How old?

 

[tls_ranch]

Hey everyone! I recently have bough some of Trisha's birds (not directly from her, but her same line) I read this almost everyday and absolutely love all of the information on here! But for the person who was asking about the black laced birds when breeding with blue and blue, I also have bought BLRW from Jerry foley and he has told me when you breed blue to blue, every other year breed back to a black roo to keep the blue more consistent and I'm sure it would keep the black nice as well.

That sounds like good advice since he is knowledgable about breeding patterned blue breeds. I got an ok pic of one of my best roos yesterday.

Wow Trisha, he looks good How old?

Thanks I guess I should still call him a cockerel since he is not quite 1 year old. Trisha

 

[RachaelS]

Thanks I guess I should still call him a cockerel since he is not quite 1 year old.

Trisha

Good, I am still learning, but I thought "he looks young", so I figured you would tell me he was 5 yo

 

[HenDaddy]

That sounds like good advice since he is knowledgable about breeding patterned blue breeds. I got an ok pic of one of my best roos yesterday.

That's a great picture of him!!