Battling Cocci...

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Andora, May 1, 2009.

  1. Andora

    Andora Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 26, 2008
    Lexington, Kentucky
    I've been giving Corid for about a week now. The chick seems to get getting worse, instead of bloody poop now it just poops blood. Today is the first day I've been able to figure out (or guess) which chick it is. One of the brown leg horn pullets is slightly puffed up and hiding instead of eating and drinking. I forced some medicated water down her throat and put her in the garage brooder instead of out in the run with the others. She's with some younger chicks, which were all together with the bigger chicks until just a few days ago. I don't have anywhere to isolate her completely alone. She's about 8 weeks old, by the way. I have Corid in the smaller chick water (with the sick one) and Corid in the bigger chicks' water outside as a precaution.

    If the Corid isn't helping, what should I do next? We have organic yogurt, but it's strawberry. We don't have access to raw milk, but we do have unhomogenized whole milk. Will any of those things help? The chick that's sick went on an adventure two or three weeks ago into the neighbors yards, we chased her all over for an hour. I have a feeling that's where she might have picked up cocci. She was hiding in this rotting wood dog house full of old animal poop in my elderly neighbor's yard when we caught her.
     
  2. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Hmm, Corid is the only thing that knocks out the cocci here. Could be this little one's intestines are just too damaged. Are you using liquid Corid and how much? I used 9 cc in a gallon waterer every day, which some will say is too much for chicks, but it did great.

    You can try some milk soaked crumbles.
     
  3. JewellFarm

    JewellFarm Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 22, 2009
    Lebanon, Virginia
    I don't know if it will help out at an advanced stage, but I did atlot of research when my one week old chicks developed it. What I came up with was to add oatmeal to their medicated feed. Maybe you can try this along with everything else you are doing and give some electrolytes. It worked wonders for mine. Not sure what it does but it did the trick. Hope it gets better.
     
  4. Andora

    Andora Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 26, 2008
    Lexington, Kentucky
    I brought the sickly one inside and I can't get her to eat anything. I mixed some ACV, yogurt, crumbles, and corid. If it won't eat at all I'll force some more Corid water down her throat in a little while using a syringe.

    I've been giving them 2 tsp in 2 gallons of water everyday. I had a terrible battle with cocci last year and I lost so many chicks. The Corid doesn't seem to work! I had to give them Corid for a week, then Sulmet for a week, and then Corid for 14 days, and it finally went away. I am really hoping to avoid using the Sulmet again, that stuff was so nasty.
     
  5. Jenski

    Jenski Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 17, 2008
    Middle Tennessee
    I would not add any special diet items when treating with Corid. Corid (Amprolium) blocks thiamine (B1) uptake in the coccidia, basically starving them out. You don't want to take a chance on feeding the cocci extra vitamins at the same time!

    If the Corid has not worked after a whole week, I can't imagine how it will work now - - unless the chick has not gotten a sufficient dose.

    When I treat for mild cocci outbreaks, I use either Corid/Amprol OR yogurt/natural methods. Just not both at once.

    Hope that helps. Please let us know how your chick does!
     
  6. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    I have had little success with Sulmet, probably because it is useless against eimeria tenella, the kind that makes the intestine slough off at five to eight weeks, and I thinkt that's what I'm dealing with. Corid, at proper dosages, should do the trick, however, if the baby's intestines are already damaged badly, there isn't much else you can do except provide supportive care. I've used raw goat's milk, dry milk powder, plain yogurt all as a soothing remedy for the intestines after a bout with cocci. Believe me, I feel your pain!
     
  7. Andora

    Andora Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 26, 2008
    Lexington, Kentucky
    I brought her inside for a little while but then decided I was probably just making her more stressed, so I put her back outside. She's not totally listless, just at that point where if you've ever had a sick chicken before you would recognize right away something is a little off. Know what I mean? Her neck looks too short and she isn't running around and eating and drinking like the others. I'm going to keep giving her a syringe full of ACV/Corid water every few hours. Hopefully that will perk her up. Maybe she hasn't been drinking enough this entire week and I just failed to notice?

    [​IMG] that she gets better!
     
  8. HidingInTheHenHouse

    HidingInTheHenHouse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Your corid dosage is too low. You should give at 2 teaspoons per gallon for 5-7 days, then lower it to 1/2 teapsoon per gallon for 2-3 weeks. This is according to the manufacturer's instructions.

    I've battled Cocci with chicks in the past as well. Even feeding medicated feed, they can develop it. I've had good luck with the Corid. Never used Sulmet, as I heard it was very hard on the chicken's system.

    Good luck with your chick.
     
  9. PunkinPeep

    PunkinPeep Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I have only dealt with this one time, but i don't think you're using a high enough concentration of corid. I used this chart as my guide; it recommends 4 mL per one gallon for five days, which works out to just under a tablespoon per gallon.

    I'm concerned that the medicine wasn't strong enough, but i'm also concerned that if you continue the corid much longer, you might be risking undue damage to the chicks who aren't showing symptoms.

    Those are just my thoughts. Some people swear by some kind of powdered milk therapy. I've never tried it, but if you're interested, i'm sure a quick search will give lots of hits.
     
  10. Andora

    Andora Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 26, 2008
    Lexington, Kentucky
    oh! Thanks! I'll give them fresh water with more in it!

    The PhD guy I talked to at our university at the avian research lab told me last year that you can give Corid for a long time without any negative effect, I think what he said was for several months. So I think the other chicks will be ok, I hope!

    Does anyone know if Corid is toxic to ducks? I read you weren't supposed to give them medicated feed. I have two ducks out in the yard that can't get to the chick water, but I'm curious if it will make them sick just in case they sneak in to the brooder or something. You never know with free ranging birds. [​IMG]
     

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