MORONS!!!!
Been a Lot of Scams, Had to Share to This One
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I knew a lady that fell for this one. The guy sent her a check for a 20 years old mare for the total price of 5,000 dollars. He did not even ask for a pciture and the mare had NO papers !!
Well, she got the check, she did not send the guy any money (like she was suppose to) and put the check in her MOTHERS checking account.
Next she promptly went out and bought, not only the 5,000 bucks worth of junk she would get for the mare, but the 2,000 bucks she was suppose to send the lovely gentlermen "for shipping".
NEEDLESS TO SAY the check was a fake, no good and now the mother was 7,000 thousand bucks overdrawn, not including the overdraft fees for EACH AND EVERY check she wrote on her mothers account.
Now I tell ya, how can ANYONE be this stupid !!! Guess what mom, I sold the mare for 7,000 bucks !! Can I put into your account ? oh please.
Well, she got the check, she did not send the guy any money (like she was suppose to) and put the check in her MOTHERS checking account.
Next she promptly went out and bought, not only the 5,000 bucks worth of junk she would get for the mare, but the 2,000 bucks she was suppose to send the lovely gentlermen "for shipping".
NEEDLESS TO SAY the check was a fake, no good and now the mother was 7,000 thousand bucks overdrawn, not including the overdraft fees for EACH AND EVERY check she wrote on her mothers account.
Now I tell ya, how can ANYONE be this stupid !!! Guess what mom, I sold the mare for 7,000 bucks !! Can I put into your account ? oh please.
Ok, maybe I am just not getting what everyone else is reading into what the guy said...but I don't see exactly what you guys do. I am not saying its not a scam, because it more than likely is. If he has money to get a pet shipped to him, why not just go get one from a local breeder or from the pound?
But this is what he said...
"Send Me pictures of the pet too and i will need your full name and adress to send you the payment check"
He doesn't ask for your bank account info, just name and address to send the check. Can't write out a check without a name, or address an envelope without an address. But, if you used paypal, he wouldn't get either one. But then, who is eager to buy a pet they haven't seen. Unless he saw that you found it and is hoping to cash in on a big reward by returning it to the real owners, if they are found? Long shot, but stranger things have happened lol.
"so that when you get the check cashed so you will deduct your money from it and help me to send the rest to the shipping company so that they can come and ship the pet to my lovly home."
I only read there, that he wants you to deduct your part of the money and then use the rest to ship the pet to him, not send any money back to him. Or am I missing something?
"and i will like to know how much you wish to sell your pet because i really need a pet"
Here he is just asking the price...yet again, not asking for any money from you.
I don't know why he wouldnt just buy a pet near him and save some money...which sends warning signals to me. Maybe I am just having a blonde day, but he seems like a bad typer, illiterate or foreign, moreso than a scammer.....just going by what he wrote. If he is a scammer, he needs to learn to ask for more personal info from people so he can get stuff from them better. Either way, if it were me, I would ignore the email, but just because his reasons make no sense.
But this is what he said...
"Send Me pictures of the pet too and i will need your full name and adress to send you the payment check"
He doesn't ask for your bank account info, just name and address to send the check. Can't write out a check without a name, or address an envelope without an address. But, if you used paypal, he wouldn't get either one. But then, who is eager to buy a pet they haven't seen. Unless he saw that you found it and is hoping to cash in on a big reward by returning it to the real owners, if they are found? Long shot, but stranger things have happened lol.
"so that when you get the check cashed so you will deduct your money from it and help me to send the rest to the shipping company so that they can come and ship the pet to my lovly home."
I only read there, that he wants you to deduct your part of the money and then use the rest to ship the pet to him, not send any money back to him. Or am I missing something?
"and i will like to know how much you wish to sell your pet because i really need a pet"
Here he is just asking the price...yet again, not asking for any money from you.
I don't know why he wouldnt just buy a pet near him and save some money...which sends warning signals to me. Maybe I am just having a blonde day, but he seems like a bad typer, illiterate or foreign, moreso than a scammer.....just going by what he wrote. If he is a scammer, he needs to learn to ask for more personal info from people so he can get stuff from them better. Either way, if it were me, I would ignore the email, but just because his reasons make no sense.
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Hello! He might be more successful if he can learn English ;-).
I hope you find a good home for it!
I hope you find a good home for it!
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What happens is that he sends you the check for the item he is buying and a hugely inflated amount for shipping "to make sure it is covered".
You put it in your bank and you go right away and pay the shipping on whatever it is using your debit card off the account you just deposited into.. So off the item goes.
Then you, being the honest person you are, run right over to the nearest Western Union (he will have told you to do this) and you use your debit card (Western Union accepts cash and debit only to avoid terrorist and domestic Money Laundering per the Patriot Act)to send the balance of the shipping to him.
So about a week later, your bank informs you that the check is no good. And it is too late because he picked up the Western Union the second you sent him the MCTN (Money Control Transfer Number) and cashed it out.
And you have no recourse because sending Western Union is like sending cash. You are out the money for actual shipping, your product or item you were selling, the shipping difference and any of the money for the actual item that you spent. Not to mention overdraft fees.
He on the other hand is laughing at you while he is spending your money and enjoying whatever you "sold" him.
That is how these work. My place of employment has a Western Union terminal and I see this all the time. In fact, I won an award for preventing fraud in many many cases, especially of elderly folks thinking they are helping cancer ridden children in Africa.
Another one is they will send you Money Orders. Always call the company they are drawn from. We sell them in $500 increments. We had someone who was sent $5000 money orders drawn on our company. I immediately called FAKE and got the police and our security dept involved.
Remember, if it sounds too good to be true....go with the sound.
What happens is that he sends you the check for the item he is buying and a hugely inflated amount for shipping "to make sure it is covered".
You put it in your bank and you go right away and pay the shipping on whatever it is using your debit card off the account you just deposited into.. So off the item goes.
Then you, being the honest person you are, run right over to the nearest Western Union (he will have told you to do this) and you use your debit card (Western Union accepts cash and debit only to avoid terrorist and domestic Money Laundering per the Patriot Act)to send the balance of the shipping to him.
So about a week later, your bank informs you that the check is no good. And it is too late because he picked up the Western Union the second you sent him the MCTN (Money Control Transfer Number) and cashed it out.
And you have no recourse because sending Western Union is like sending cash. You are out the money for actual shipping, your product or item you were selling, the shipping difference and any of the money for the actual item that you spent. Not to mention overdraft fees.
He on the other hand is laughing at you while he is spending your money and enjoying whatever you "sold" him.
That is how these work. My place of employment has a Western Union terminal and I see this all the time. In fact, I won an award for preventing fraud in many many cases, especially of elderly folks thinking they are helping cancer ridden children in Africa.
Another one is they will send you Money Orders. Always call the company they are drawn from. We sell them in $500 increments. We had someone who was sent $5000 money orders drawn on our company. I immediately called FAKE and got the police and our security dept involved.
Remember, if it sounds too good to be true....go with the sound.
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In this type of scam he wants to send you a check - not the other way around. The check will be for extra "so he can pay shipping" - probably a lot extra. The idea is he sends you a check, you cash it and send him cash back so he can pay the shipper. Only the check is no good so you've cashed a bad check, your bank deducts the full amount from your account and he's gotten cash back and moves on to next person.
Edited to add: Think about it.....why couldn't he just pay the shipper himself if he has checks/money?
It is amazing what people fall for though. That linked story was something else. I'm afraid I don't feel sorry for her and her greed.
Edited again to add: Terrie and I must have been posting at same time.
In this type of scam he wants to send you a check - not the other way around. The check will be for extra "so he can pay shipping" - probably a lot extra. The idea is he sends you a check, you cash it and send him cash back so he can pay the shipper. Only the check is no good so you've cashed a bad check, your bank deducts the full amount from your account and he's gotten cash back and moves on to next person.
Edited to add: Think about it.....why couldn't he just pay the shipper himself if he has checks/money?
It is amazing what people fall for though. That linked story was something else. I'm afraid I don't feel sorry for her and her greed.
Edited again to add: Terrie and I must have been posting at same time.
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"so that when you get the check cashed so you will deduct your money from it and help me to send the rest to the shipping company so that they can come and ship the pet to my lovly home."
So in other words he just really stunk at explaining what he wanted you to do in this part. Gotcha. I was missing the part everyone was getting as to him asking for money. The way he put the above sentence was that after she took out her money, she was to help him by sending the rest of the money to the shipping company...not back to him. The whole thing sounded fishy, for sure, I was just missing the actual 'scam' part I guess.
Thanks for clearing it up
So in other words he just really stunk at explaining what he wanted you to do in this part. Gotcha. I was missing the part everyone was getting as to him asking for money. The way he put the above sentence was that after she took out her money, she was to help him by sending the rest of the money to the shipping company...not back to him. The whole thing sounded fishy, for sure, I was just missing the actual 'scam' part I guess.
Thanks for clearing it up
If you buy say a puppy from a breeder, you just pay them x amount of money and they ship the dog to you right? You don't find your own shipper, do you?
The guy is going to have to get a lot smoother if he is planning on getting this scam to work. Unless the lousy typing/speech is an on purpose thing to confuse the person so they don't pay as much attention to the details?
The guy is going to have to get a lot smoother if he is planning on getting this scam to work. Unless the lousy typing/speech is an on purpose thing to confuse the person so they don't pay as much attention to the details?
Well it depends on how you read the "help me to send the rest to the shipping company". He doesn't say "and send the rest to the shipping company" he says "help me to send the rest". Again, it's just the start of the scam, there would have been more instructions to come if someone had replied to it.
Used to be a bank officer myself.
Used to be a bank officer myself.
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