That the easiest way to get information out of some of these threads that are pages long, is simply to read the first page, and then the last page. Seems there are several people posting on these Loooonnng threads who get sidetracked and off topic, turning the whole thread into a seemingly useless argument, and making it difficult for anyone else (who wants to learn something) to make sense out of anything. Sad, because .....everyone has something useful to share. That's the whole point of this forum, isnt' it? Constant arguing and off topic discussions is counter productive. Just my two cents, and a bit of advice for whoever might need it. .