Beliefs

ok I haven't posted here in a couple days, but what are you guys' opinions on Mary being sinless?
 
If Mary was sinless why did she call LORD JESUS her Saviour..you don't need a saviour if you are already sinless..
Luke 1: 46-47
  • And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
  • And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
 
If Mary was sinless why did she call LORD JESUS her Saviour..you don't need a saviour if you are already sinless..
Luke 1: 46-47
  • And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
  • And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
amen. she rejoiced bc she needed a savior as much as us.
 
I'm a follower of Jesus Christ.
-raised in a Missionary Baptist Church
-attended/married in a Southern Baptist Church
-currently attend (and have for years, now) a Bible Church
I go to a baptist church but will probably leave the SBC and become a bible church because of some of their beliefs
 
What does a Bible Church mean?
-non-denominational. "Bible churches usually believe that God is One and that He has a triune nature of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They believe and preach the God-ordained Lordship of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world. Bible churches usually believe the core Christian foundation doctrines of salvation by faith in Christ alone, redemption through the death, burial, resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ, the renewing of the mind by the Word of God, and the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Bible churches tend to emphasize Christian service, discipleship, and fellowship as necessary for a believer’s spiritual maturity. They believe in the coming return of Jesus Christ, the Day of Judgment, the thousand-year reign of Christ, eternal life for those who believe, and eternal hell for those who do not. Bible churches usually practice the common Christian ordinances of baptism in water and communion, the singing of songs and hymns, and teaching and preaching from the Bible with the purpose of life application. They are usually interested in the great commission of the Lord Jesus Christ—the spreading of the gospel for the salvation of people’s souls with a heavy emphasis on making disciples. Thus, Bible churches are considered Evangelical." - this is a general overview that I found.
 
I've been to a pentecostal church and I find they sing to many new songs and almost none of the old hymns. The new songs are SOO hard to sing compared to the old 17/1800s songs.
Did have to laugh at this, apparently your hymnal isn’t written in five flats! I totally agree rhythm wise that older music is much more regular, but as someone who chords the bass cleft and plays the treble cleft by ear, some of the newer stuff is way easier to play, which is probably more a commentary on my musical abilities than anything else! Personally sacred music needs to be theologically sound, quality music, and congregationally friendly (this is a worship service not a concert) to make it into our rotation, I don’t care when it was written. We have O Come O Come Emmanuel (circa 1100?) right alongside stuff from 2023.

As far as as Mary being sinless (catholic teaching?), there is absolutely nothing in scripture to support this. Paul writes “for all have sinned” which means everybody, if she’s human she needs a savior, only the Word made flesh, Immanuel, God with us managed that. The song Mary Did you Know does a great job with this idea, “this child you delivered will soon deliver you.” There’s also a couple scenes in the gospels where she shows she’s very human, whether it is nagging Jesus about turning water into wine, trying to drag Him out of someone’s house because she thinks He’s gone crazy, or chewing out her 12 year old for staying behind in Jerusalem. She’s as human as the rest of us, not some Demi goddess, there is only one Name under Heaven by which we can be saved, including His mom!

As far as Pentecostals and the Trinity, I think Church of God is the major Pentecostal non-Trinitarian denomination in the US, may be some smaller denominations or independent churches too, but most evangelical churches, whether Pentecostal or not, believe in the Trinity. Dorothy Sayers book Mind of the Maker is a fascinating explanation of this mind blowing concept, you can find it free online. As far as women in ministry, clothes appropriate for church, etc, these are secondary or even tertiary issues that vary by denomination and even by church, but people fight over them like they are vital theology, just like we want to know all about Nephilim or End Times but don’t give a fig about the basic gospel message and how we should actually live as believers. There’s a reason this stuff isn’t covered extensively in scripture, we should take the hint and focus on the truly important things, not what color Noah painted his boat, save that for a PhD thesis!

Nice idea for a thread, a place where you can discuss nerdy theology stuff and ask questions without making non-geeks awkward.
 

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