Birchen Marans Thread

[BCMaraniac]

My name is Diane....not Tess......Tess was the name of my Border Collie.

I am looking for some Birchen...I have two pullets and one has the gold fleck in her hackles. The other one is still younger and I can't tell about the coloring.

Diane

Hi Diane, I was just being lazy and not typing your full name....LOL My Blue Heeler's name was Rose.

 

[DMRippy]

GOLD or Copper would be very difficult to breed with. I will just share my TINY experience with a cross like that

I have some Silver Penciled Wyandotte Bantams. They were crossed with Partridge not too far back. My first roo had cream I don't think he had any GLARING gold but was not the most SILVER roo I have seen. The pullets where obviously RUSTY looking. I would get some chicks that were partridge and some that were more like the rusty pullets. I was making no headway. I swapped roo for one that was Silver looking (Could still be hiding gold/red) Picked the most SILVER pullets too.... this round things are BETTER. Chick color is getting more silver and so are the chicks.

From my reading if you don't have a PURE Silver roo you are really fighting an uphill battle. I got lucky with my second roo. Silver is sex linked so you can work with pullet with it but not as easy with roos with leakage.




This is an old pic but this is the roo that was throwing partridge chicks. See the cream color in his hackles and saddle feathers? You may not be able to see the rust in the pullets but it was there. That dark girl was a bigger problem..... anyway.... just sharing.

 

[BCMaraniac]

GOLD or Copper would be very difficult to breed with. I will just share my TINY experience with a cross like that

I have some Silver Penciled Wyandotte Bantams. They were crossed with Partridge not too far back. My first roo had cream I don't think he had any GLARING gold but was not the most SILVER roo I have seen. The pullets where obviously RUSTY looking. I would get some chicks that were partridge and some that were more like the rusty pullets. I was making no headway. I swapped roo for one that was Silver looking (Could still be hiding gold/red) Picked the most SILVER pullets too.... this round things are BETTER. Chick color is getting more silver and so are the chicks.

From my reading if you don't have a PURE Silver roo you are really fighting an uphill battle. I got lucky with my second roo. Silver is sex linked so you can work with pullet with it but not as easy with roos with leakage.




This is an old pic but this is the roo that was throwing partridge chicks. See the cream color in his hackles and saddle feathers? You may not be able to see the rust in the pullets but it was there. That dark girl was a bigger problem..... anyway.... just sharing.

Thanks for the diagram. I posted pictures a few posts back. The rooster is a Blue Birchen, correct?

 

[DMRippy]

Is this a Blue Birchen Marans rooster?

THIS ROO????

My guess is this roo is from a cross with a copper and a birchen. Similar to my roo above. I don't know for sure, I am not that big on genetics but he is not just birchen. I think there are several ways to make a roo look like that..... I just can't tell you WHAT made him.

 

[BCMaraniac]

THIS ROO????

My guess is this roo is from a cross with a copper and a birchen. Similar to my roo above. I don't know for sure, I am not that big on genetics but he is not just birchen. I think there are several ways to make a roo look like that..... I just can't tell you WHAT made him.

His offspring with the blue hen there with him have ben 3 splash roosters, two splash pullets, two blue birchen pullets with beautiful silver on their hackles, and a black pullet that is developing the silver. If he is from a copper birchen cross, then these offspring aren't going to breed true....

I know nothing about Birchens. What would be different about the blue rooster in my photos if he were Birchen?

 

[DMRippy]

Quote:
If it's working go with it.

 

[BCMaraniac]

If it's working go with it.

I just wonder what he should look like if he was a true Blue Birchen Marans. I don't own this pair, just offspring from this pair, and there is no copper discoloration on the 5 splash offspring, or the 2 blues and one black. Just trying to figure out what they are to have a guess about the genetics of the offspring.

 

[BCMaraniac]

THIS ROO????

My guess is this roo is from a cross with a copper and a birchen. Similar to my roo above. I don't know for sure, I am not that big on genetics but he is not just birchen. I think there are several ways to make a roo look like that..... I just can't tell you WHAT made him.

Here are splash offspring from the two blue birds I posted a few posts back. Do they look like splash birchens? Or is there a difference between the splash from a blue birchen cross and a splash from a blue copper cross? I'm just trying to understand.

 

[lawatt]

i posted these on the main marans thread, but thought i should put them up here too -- two new birchen chicks! 2 days old:

 

[BCMaraniac]

i posted these on the main marans thread, but thought i should put them up here too -- two new birchen chicks! 2 days old:

Pretty chicks!