Black bulbs don't work for heating??

[rita2paul]

i have used infrared for many years with no problem, they do sleep with the red light.
i wouldn't use a floor heater, i have heard of lizards getting burnt from floor heating. chicks need heat from above.

 

[Little Byrd]

The problems are see, assuming you can anchor it securely, is that it is blowing and heating the whole space. They don't need the whole space heated. They should be able to self-regulate their temps, with cool areas and warm areas to go to as desired. 

My walk-in closet is their brooder, so couldn't I leave the door open so as not to let the whole space heat up? It would only be at night. I decided to skip the fancy red or black bulbs and use a regular heat bulb that I know works, but I definitely need a way to give them a break from the light at night. Last time I had quail chicks, the 24/7 bright light drove them crazy and they started killing and eating each other. Once I looked in their brooder and found a dead chick with a leg missing, and then found the leg bone pecked clean on the other side of the brooder.... I definitely don't want to go through that again

Btw I just tried the heater for a few minutes, and I set the thermostat 12" below it. The temp peaked at 93 degrees from 12'' away on high. It seems like it might work

 

[Little Byrd]

i have used infrared for many years with no problem, they do sleep with the red light.
i wouldn't use a floor heater, i have heard of lizards getting burnt from floor heating. chicks need heat from above.

The heater would be above, sitting face down on a metal grate like a heat lamp.

 

[Blooie]

The heater would be above, sitting face down on a metal grate like a heat lamp.

I'm a little confused. The heaters are supposed to shut off automatically if tipped, yet you're going to lay it over on a grate as if it HAD been tipped? Do I have that right?

 

[SunHwaKwon]

I'm a little confused. The heaters are supposed to shut off automatically if tipped, yet you're going to lay it over on a grate as if it HAD been tipped? Do I have that right?

Good catch, Blooie. I missed that!

My walk-in closet is their brooder, so couldn't I leave the door open so as not to let the whole space heat up? It would only be at night. I decided to skip the fancy red or black bulbs and use a regular heat bulb that I know works, but I definitely need a way to give them a break from the light at night. Last time I had quail chicks, the 24/7 bright light drove them crazy and they started killing and eating each other. Once I looked in their brooder and found a dead chick with a leg missing, and then found the leg bone pecked clean on the other side of the brooder.... I definitely don't want to go through that again

Btw I just tried the heater for a few minutes, and I set the thermostat 12" below it. The temp peaked at 93 degrees from 12'' away on high. It seems like it might work

What is the temperature in your closet without any additional heat?

 

[Little Byrd]

I'm a little confused.  The heaters are supposed to shut off automatically if tipped, yet you're going to lay it over on a grate as if it HAD been tipped?  Do I have that right?  

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but if it falls face down onto the floor it turns off, if I throw a blanket over it it turns off, or if the room gets too hot it turns off. Maybe it has heat sensors that turn it off and not necessarily sensors that detect its position.

Edit: It doesn't turn off when I set it on the grate though.

 

[Little Byrd]

Good catch, Blooie. I missed that!




What is the temperature in your closet without any additional heat?

About 70 degrees at all times

 

[Blooie]

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but if it falls face down onto the floor it turns off, if I throw a blanket over it it turns off, or if the room gets too hot it turns off. Maybe it has heat sensors that turn it off and not necessarily sensors that detect its position.

Edit: It doesn't turn off when I set it on the grate though.

So putting it face down on a wire shelf won't work.....

I'm no expert, but in the time it takes to try this and examine that, a heating pad cave could have been set up and functioning. <shrugs>

 

[Little Byrd]

It already has worked. It wouldn't shut off when on the grate. And I'm expecting 80+ quail hatchlings, so I don't think a heat pad would be enough. Thanks for the suggestion, but I've found heat pads to be unreliable and I'd be afraid the quail might get underneath it and smother themselves.

So putting it face down on a wire shelf won't work..... I'm no expert, but in the time it takes to try this and examine that, a heating pad cave could have been set up and functioning.

Edit: I just looked up heat pads for chicks to see if any were big enough for 80 quail, and WOW those things are expensive! Some of them cost more than my incubator

 

[SunHwaKwon]

It already has worked. It wouldn't shut off when on the grate. And I'm expecting 80+ quail hatchlings, so I don't think a heat pad would be enough. Thanks for the suggestion, but I've found heat pads to be unreliable and I'd be afraid the quail might get underneath it and smother themselves.
Edit: I just looked up heat pads for chicks to see if any were big enough for 80 quail, and WOW those things are expensive! Some of them cost more than my incubator

80 quail should fit under two 12x15 pads, which would be $26.