I put 14 FBCM eggs in the incubator Saturday night. They are from the Bev Davis line. I am so excited about these little eggies. I can't wait. I have been wanting some for soooooo long.
Black Copper Marans discussion thread
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Lisa, the white ear lobes on a Marans are a DQ. I believe the thing to go by is these other things with the lobes and wattles are faults, but you do not want to breed one of these unless it is absolutely necessary because it will reproduce itself. To win in a show with a Marans with faults means a very poor class or a judge doesn't know what is required.
Take a look at most of the wheaten females that pictures are available, most have wrinkle combs and way too many points. Long as we bred these will continue to be a problem. Look for the Marans with faults to be by-passed in shows when more Marans are showed. Don
Lisa, the white ear lobes on a Marans are a DQ. I believe the thing to go by is these other things with the lobes and wattles are faults, but you do not want to breed one of these unless it is absolutely necessary because it will reproduce itself. To win in a show with a Marans with faults means a very poor class or a judge doesn't know what is required.
Take a look at most of the wheaten females that pictures are available, most have wrinkle combs and way too many points. Long as we bred these will continue to be a problem. Look for the Marans with faults to be by-passed in shows when more Marans are showed. Don
I agree about removing any white earlobed marans from my program. I have had to really force myself to remove one very nice roo, and one very nice hen that showd about the same as yours, maybe covered only a third of the lobe. It was not "pale skin" white, it was opaque hard bluish white, like someone smudged zinc oxide on thier skin. Unmistakable. Go ahead and cull. It took me six months of breeding to figure out it reproduces itself very generously I might add. Don't waste your time and money, not to mention pumping out doznes more that show it or carry it.
I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR about what will win or not win at a show. My birds are not show quality!
I am working with what I have and am asking for help in learning about the parts of a Dang Chicken.
PLEASE POST if you want to HELP, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT A JUDGE KNOWS OR HOW LOUSY THE COMPETETION WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR MY BIRDS TO WIN - - - That is just insulting and hurtful!
I am going to try ONE MORE time to get a discussion going here - -
FIRST, I do not see the WHITE ear lobes. These are BLUE and BLACK copper marans. Some of these lobes are a light blue BUT still BLUE.
SECOND, these guys are only 8 weeks old and I do believe color is still developing. Some of my BCM cockerels don't even have good coppering in the hackles yet!
THIRD, I am questioning and looking for a earnest discussion about the difference in the RED ear lobe and wattle material. These four cockerels are amazing different in their presentation.
COCKEREL # 1
Here is another look at that comb with the downward tiny point at the back of the blade
COCKEREL # 2
COCKEREL # 3
COCKEREL # 4
I am working with what I have and am asking for help in learning about the parts of a Dang Chicken.
PLEASE POST if you want to HELP, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT A JUDGE KNOWS OR HOW LOUSY THE COMPETETION WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR MY BIRDS TO WIN - - - That is just insulting and hurtful!
I am going to try ONE MORE time to get a discussion going here - -
FIRST, I do not see the WHITE ear lobes. These are BLUE and BLACK copper marans. Some of these lobes are a light blue BUT still BLUE.
SECOND, these guys are only 8 weeks old and I do believe color is still developing. Some of my BCM cockerels don't even have good coppering in the hackles yet!
THIRD, I am questioning and looking for a earnest discussion about the difference in the RED ear lobe and wattle material. These four cockerels are amazing different in their presentation.
COCKEREL # 1
Here is another look at that comb with the downward tiny point at the back of the blade
COCKEREL # 2
COCKEREL # 3
COCKEREL # 4
Arent they supposed to have redish color eyes? I have NO idea about standard as I am just starting out....I think your boys are pretty!
Having raised all sorts of species of animals, I'm just starting out in the chickens but given warm blooded critters tend to gain the required colorations of all important points, upon maturity or at least getting there, to me, evaluating eye color or lightness of ear lobes, unless they stay with a chicken from egg to maturity, is missing the boat.
If the hackle color does not come in on the roos until more maturity, is that the same for eye and ear lobe coloration? Taking into consideration the young age of these cockerels, to me, would be necessary before passing harsh judgement.
BTW, when speaking of past tense, its SHOWN, not SHOWED. Yeah, I'm picky about English and spelling as well.
If the hackle color does not come in on the roos until more maturity, is that the same for eye and ear lobe coloration? Taking into consideration the young age of these cockerels, to me, would be necessary before passing harsh judgement.
BTW, when speaking of past tense, its SHOWN, not SHOWED. Yeah, I'm picky about English and spelling as well.
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Just as with the comb, hackle, and saddle color, the eyes get to their desired color (reddish bay) at different times with the differing lines. So far in my small flock, my chicks' eyes usually start out a grayish/green color, then I get the desired eye color at around 4 months of age. These are 8 week old chicks, so their eye color will change dramatically over the next few weeks. Check out the proposed APA standard here:
http://www.maransusa.org/
Just as with the comb, hackle, and saddle color, the eyes get to their desired color (reddish bay) at different times with the differing lines. So far in my small flock, my chicks' eyes usually start out a grayish/green color, then I get the desired eye color at around 4 months of age. These are 8 week old chicks, so their eye color will change dramatically over the next few weeks. Check out the proposed APA standard here:
http://www.maransusa.org/
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Just as with the comb, hackle, and saddle color, the eyes get to their desired color (reddish bay) at different times with the differing lines. So far in my small flock, my chicks' eyes usually start out a grayish/green color, then I get the desired eye color at around 4 months of age. These are 8 week old chicks, so their eye color will change dramatically over the next few weeks. Check out the proposed APA standard here:
http://www.maransusa.org/
Sweet debbi thanks! Thanks for the link!
Just as with the comb, hackle, and saddle color, the eyes get to their desired color (reddish bay) at different times with the differing lines. So far in my small flock, my chicks' eyes usually start out a grayish/green color, then I get the desired eye color at around 4 months of age. These are 8 week old chicks, so their eye color will change dramatically over the next few weeks. Check out the proposed APA standard here:
http://www.maransusa.org/
Sweet debbi thanks! Thanks for the link!
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