Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[pinkchick]

Kim, I saw the Mossiness but didn't want to get to involved being the nice Guy that I am. Don

Thanks Don! I thought that your keen eye wouldn't miss that, but then thought to self, maybe I had been out of the loop so long that I was missing something. ¡Thanks again mi amigo!

 

[snowbird]

Quote: It has been noted in some of the Old Educational Poultry Books that if you breed the Green Sheen fowl real close and intense you will eventually get some with Purple Sheen. We still do not want the Purple period. Don

 

[pinkchick]

Not to be disagreeable but I believe the Cemani should also have the green Sheen. Look at the sheen on this bird and you will see that it is mostly Green. Don

Agreed! I see only green sheen on these birds. Indeed these birds are stunning, but all photos, and information that I have seen of this particular breed does not talk about purple, nor has shown it. I love chicken genetics!!!!!! The diversity of how they can be, what they can be, and what they will be just fascinates me to no end.

 

[saltandpepper2]

Kim, I saw the Mossiness but didn't want to get to involved being the nice Guy that I am. Don

I didn't even notice the Mossiness. I'll get a better look tomorrow. Will that molt out like the white wing feather?

 

[pinkchick]

It has been noted in some of the Old Educational Poultry Books that if you breed the Green Sheen fowl real close and intense you will eventually get some with Purple Sheen. We still do not want the Purple period. Don

Really!?!?! That is particularly great information and totally interesting! Wonder how the green eventually makes it to purple? I think you just brought up something that deserves further investigation. Going to talk to my biology professor tomorrow (he is also a chicken fancier and breeder) to dig up some info on that for me. Will let you know what we come up with. I can imagine that there is something to be learned from this that will help all Marans breeders.

 

[magdelaine]

Not to be disagreeable but I believe the Cemani should also have the green Sheen. Look at the sheen on this bird and you will see that it is mostly Green. Don

I won't disagree but in reviewing pictures and information on Cemanis and Sumatras, it's apparently at least not a mark against them to have the purple. Sumatras in particular are more purple than green. I think it's safe to say for our purposes, we don't want to see purple, ever! I have a couple of wheaten split hens that I will not be using that have a bit of purple on their feathers; probably from the color dilution of the wheaten. Live and learn.

 

[snowbird]

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Quote: The Mossiness will most likely get worse as the get older, Most of the time the Mossy females will lay darker eggs for you if you just want a dark egg layer. Don

 

[saltandpepper2]

The Mossiness will most likely get worse as the get older, Most of the time the Mossy females will lay darker eggs for you if you just  want a dark egg layer. Don

Man, I was really hoping for quality birds. I'll check tomorrow to see if the other two have it as well. Can it be bred out?

 

[pinkchick]

I didn't even notice the Mossiness. I'll get a better look tomorrow. Will that molt out like the white wing feather?

Sometimes it covers with black, sometimes not, but is thought of to be an indication of Wheaten influence in the genetics, or at least that is what it was thought of before I took a forced sabbatical from breeding Marans for a while. And what Don said!!!!!

 

[snowbird]

Quote: Look in the 2001 SOP on page 34 and it gives the Black color. The SOP the first 40 pages is a Gold Mine for Poultry. Don