Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[jarodw45]

Scatology! LOL! Yes it is very good reference...

 

[pinkchick]

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Sorry that you have lost 2 chicks.

I am not an expert but it sounds like Cocci to me. Bloody poops is a sign and symptom but the bloody is different than an intestinal shedding. Did the 2 chicks that passed look all hunched up and lethargic, maybe even pale in the face and comb? I saw Cocci poohs once and it was alot of blood and looked like fresh bright blood not dark or just smeared here or there in the feces...there was more blood than there was poops. Sounds like you have done the right thing by moving them to a new brooder and starting them on a treatment. Good luck and I hope they start feeling better soon.

Also, there are more folks that will have more advise and knowledge about it that will be happy to share their wisdom with you when they come by.

 

[marquisella]

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Your chicks can only pick up coccidia when they have been on ground/floor where adults birds have been. So they can't get it while they are still in a brooder, unless the brooder floor was contaminated with it by adult birds previously.
Corid works well. But if they have not been on floor where other adul birds have been, I would think its not coccidia. Usually coccidia presents with puffed up birds, lethargic & thin. And the diarrhea.

 

[snowbird]

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From what you say you have Cocci, I would imagine you had them on wire floor and moved them to solid floor. When you raise baby chicks on wire they will come down with cocidia most of the time because they have not been exposed to cocidia. If in the future you are using wire floor spread paper on the wire and dampen it with water and sprinkle feed on the damp paper and this will make them immune to cocidia.

The chicks that are sick will be alright if you have the corid in them and have heat on them. With the young chicks it is good if they eat a little of the crap so they develop an ammunity. Never heard of it being caused by other chickens being in the pen. Don

 

[The Hammer]

I had moved them 3 days ago to a dirt floor brooder outside? The building had chickens yrs ago ? so i assume they got it there?
All the rest are drinking water with corid in it and look fine . No bloody poop from the remaining birds! But will treat for a week at least.

 

[snowbird]

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Did you have them on a wire floor first ? Don

 

[The Hammer]

they were in a metal water cattle trough with pine shavings !

 

[Zanna]

Needing to do some culling soon..........I have 8, 16 week old FBCM Bev Davis lines and one 26 week old, Bev Davis/Wade Jean Line Roos. I will post some pics of ones I think have serious faults and if you could give me your opinion on whether or not they are a definite cull or whether I should let them grow out longer. This is so difficult, I don't want to make a mistake and wish I could pay one of you to come look at my flock and advise me

(anyone???, seriously.............)

I am thinking this fellow is too light coloured, long back and low set tail ??

Not sure why this guy is so light around his eyes?? It is like the feathers never came in? He looks roached back to me (horse conformation not sure if applies to chickens?) In the 2nd & 4th pic. I like the fellow behind him............

My older guy, no leg feathering and fairly pink legs. I have posted him before, the first time he got good reviews, when he got a little older, not so much, he is getting lighter around the neck..............

I like this guy but I seem to be drawn to the too dark boys..............

I have no breedworthy girls at the moment but set 18 eggs last night

 

[math ace]

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Roo # 1 - - A low tail set is not a problem. There are way too many out there with too high of a tail set.
The problem is this guy is way too light.

Also, this guy looks narrow, really narrow.


Roo # 2 - - Roach back does apply to chickens and yes it looks that way.
Light around the eyes and Light on the leg shanks and shafting in the chest feathers are problems indicating issues
you do not want to introduce to your flock by breeding.

There is something odd about this boy's body too. His chest does not transition into the lower body smoothly.

Is the roo in the background of the second picture one of the four you want to cull ? ?

Roo # 3 - - PINK LEGS are a DQ ( I think). They are not to the standard for sure! Pink toes are OK, but legs should be gray / slate.


Roo 4 - - Dark Boy with light eyes and light leg shanks indicate something in the mix genetically that you don't want to bring into the mix
by continuing to breed. IF I wanted to keep one of these boys and let it grow for a couple of more months before deciding anything,
it would be this one. I would be watching the chest for the shafting.


NOW keep in mind that 8 weeks is not enough time for eye color to fully develop. I would not cull the 8 week olds based on eye color alone.
Which ones were 8 week olds?

Do you have some roos that you do like ? ? ?

 

[jeaucamom]

I just got 2 little FBCM... they are about three weeks to three 1/2 weeks old. One has little black comb and one has slightly larger yellow comb. How soon do the roos really start to develop combs??? And is there any difference in tail feathers when they are this young between boys and girls?? The one with yellow comb starting to worry me. Will try to post pics tonight.