Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[youngbiddy]

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Oh, don't worry. "Waldo" here is going to make a friend of mine a fine chicken dinner. I'm kind of sorry to even keep feeding the little dude but I can't bring myself to kill a baby bird.

 

[JerseyFresh]

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you may have a second cockerel in the batch that has a comb not as big as the one you pictured.
Each bird is going to color in differently. . . . Some color a lot and real early,
Some take longer, and some never get ver much coppering.

If you can get a chest photo of the one for sure roo. . . . I might be able to tell you more.

It's possible. That one was the last to hatch, is the only bird with clean shanks, and is kind of the runt. I'll stay in denial if it's okay with you

The obvious cockerel does have a good bit of color on his chest. I'll get a better pic when I get home today. It's very interesting to see how all this shakes out.

Thanks for looking.

 

[youngbiddy]

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OMGOSH I love him!!!

Yeah, he is cute in a 'hapless misfit' sort of way. LOL
It's too bad, because he's pure Davis; perfect shanks, deep-chested, broad-shouldered, and his eyes are the perfect juvie-green that turns pumpkin so he's not over-melanised like a couple of the pullets are. Oh well, I've got another Davis cockerel that's shaping up nicely. He's got a tail, and everything!

 

[Bravo]

I have a 12 week old boy that could be considered "rumpless" but in all honesty, he started life with a tail. When he was 5 weeks or so he got picked on by the other boys and they literally plucked out all of his tail and back feathers. Solitary confinement and BlueKoat he was fine. Weird thing is his back feathers grew back quickly but his tail feathers have yet to come back. Interesting thing is he is now the dominant bird and I know no one is pecking him. Strange.

Could your boy have had his feathers pecked out or has he always been like that?

 

[math ace]

Geebs,

I tried to get the updated photos for our study today, BUT I waited to late in the day. The birds are too hot ( 92 F today - OMG HOT) and are panting in the shade.
Tomorrow it is suppose to rain most of the day . . ..

I'll try again as soon as possible.

 

[youngbiddy]

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Oh trust me, he doesn't even have a tailbone. I noticed he had an issue with a perpetually dirty tush in his first couple of days, but I didn't figure out why till recently. I'd never seen a rumpless bird before.
Without a tailbone his vent is at an odd angle that causes the feathers below to be perpetually dirty. When he was a baby I kept thinking he had a sort of pasty butt issue, but no matter how much I washed him the fluff under his vent never stayed clean. Now that he's older and his adult feathers are starting you can tell that he doesn't even have a tail for tail feathers to grow on. Poor guy.

 

[Bravo]

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Oh trust me, he doesn't even have a tailbone. I noticed he had an issue with a perpetually dirty tush in his first couple of days, but I didn't figure out why till recently. I'd never seen a rumpless bird before.
Without a tailbone his vent is at an odd angle that causes the feathers below to be perpetually dirty. When he was a baby I kept thinking he had a sort of pasty butt issue, but no matter how much I washed him the fluff under his vent never stayed clean. Now that he's older and his adult feathers are starting you can tell that he doesn't even have a tail for tail feathers to grow on. Poor guy.

Oh man, that is crazy but kinda cool in another way too

 

[seabreeze]

What other breeds are tail/rump-less? Would this denote crossbreeding way back in the lineage?

 

[youngbiddy]

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Only Araucana, that I know of. Rumpless Marans are mentioned twice in the huge Marans thread, that I know of. And there's a small thread someone made on it.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=161851&p=1

I know kathyinmo has put up some pics of them on the other thread..page 1430something.

 

[seabreeze]

Thanks Young for posting the links, I read through them. Its very interesting that its shown up more frequently that I personally thought it would.

My questions are, would this rumplessness, especially with no tail bone, be a genetic anomaly?

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Would this denote cross-breeding back in the ancestry/pedigree?

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Is this more common to one particular line or another? Especially given that inbreeding seems to be done a lot, WHERE is this coming down from? Can anyone pinpoint which bloodlines are producing it the most?