Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[snowbird]

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Would it be possible to see a picture of the feathered middle toe / We have been going over this a good bit the past few days. Most I have seen with this fault were usually heavier feet feathered. I would say this and it probably goes against everything that has been said before. If I had some female with little or no feathering on the feet I would test breed this male if he is good everywhere else and see what you get. Do not breed him to heavy feet feathering females.

This was the product of a clean legged hen and a lightly feathered roo. I am amazed at the vast differences you see.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/49750_cuckachoofnt.jpg

Thanks, This is the information we have been trying to document . If this is going to happen then I would not breed this chick to produce Marans. This is the kind of information we need though. How about you sending "geebs" an email with the picture and have her put it in the front page of the thread. If you send just state it is from a clean leg female and a lightly feathered male.

 

[Debbi]

For what it's worth, with my limited experience, chicks born with a yellow or white shank/toe feathering, usually lose the feathering completely by 4-5 weeks of age. I'd be curious to see this chick's shank/toe feathering in a few weeks.

 

[poularde]

Here is a few pics of his foot.

Hope you can see what it looks like. I have to contact the breeder to find out what the parents feathering is like.

 

[snowbird]

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Thanks Debbi, will keep an eye on this also, soon as I can tell the males will cull any that are not feathered all the way to end of toe. I am checking for a correlation between the white wing chicks and the adults with white wing. I believe there is a correllation here also.

 

[Lotsapaints]

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Very interesting as my Rooster has the heavy feathering all the way to the end of the toe and the toe is short and what I would call a stub in between his middle toe (on only one foot) first 3 chicks hatched and 1 is perfect feathering one stops at the toe and one has heavy feathering all the way down and a lone single fluff in the middle.....I think feathering is going to be quite a project...2 of my hens have okay feathering and 1 is very sparse I will have a test egg from my only hen with good feathering by the end of the month wonder what that one will be like. Most of my stock needs help with feathered shanks very sparse and not all go to the end of the toe.

 

[OHmamma]

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Thanks Debbi, will keep an eye on this also, soon as I can tell the males will cull any that are not feathered all the way to end of toe. I am checking for a correlation between the white wing chicks and the adults with white wing. I believe there is a correllation here also.

I am going to keep him for a while to see what happens. He is actually a cucu from my silver cucu roo over Black Copper hen. I will take some more pictures of the results I am getting from clean w/ fethered shanks. I may also get the roos and hens to hold still long enough so I can get a picture of what theirs looks like.

 

[AyeUpChuck]

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LOVE LOVE LOVE this!

Oh and how would you feel if Geebs and I took a road trip up to visit?

 

[OHmamma]

So out of a hatch of 27 chicks of a Black Copper (Cl shank) roo over one blue copper and two black copper hens all feathered I had 17 chicks with feathered shanks there were only 13 of those that I chose to keep. One pullet has clean legs but she is built like a tank already bigger than all of her hatchmates. I also made friends with her so she has won a spot in my FR club.

This is my WJ roo he is my first black copper and my favorite. My husband drove me 65 miles and bought hiom for me for my birthday last year. I Love his coloring and feathers especially his saddle feathers. The cold got his comb tips. (lesson learned there, I have only wintered peacombed chickens in the past.)

He was the roo for several of the chicks I am keeping this year. I bred him with a Brown Legghorn last year to see how he will darken the egg and it was quite impressive. I am also getting a random banty size out of breedings of him and different hens. (One has already won a banty egg show) I don't understand that either he is a very large bird.

Anyway here is "Willie" and a few of his ladies

I took a lot of pictures today to post but I stil need to sort them out. I also found a few with genetic defects for you all to see. I have one with webbed toes,an inverted eyelid, missing talon on the outter toe, and I even found a tiny comb sprig. Some of these are from my own birds some are from eggs that I purchased. I also have a variety of "leg shots" as a result of crossing clean to feathered. I am only getting an average 35-40% ratio of feathered when crossing the two, just to let you know, but there is a wide variation in the amount,length and how far it goes.

Sorry right now I am too tired.

 

[Sphinx]

He is a nice roo. I'm interested to see what happened when you mixed the brown leghorn with him.


I'm also curious about what happens when you mix a BCM with a SLW. Yep, I'm trying to see the positive in my probably cockerel with my new BCM.

I still may ask for a recount on the gender though. Chick is very nearly 9 weeks old, and the combs and wattles aren't even half the size of the cockerels in the 6 month study chickens.

Good for you, VC, helping your wife so much when she recovers from her c-section. I've heard they're rough. I have four kids, but I gave birth to them the easy way.

 

[OHmamma]

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When I crossed them I had three chicks that looked like mossy BCMs and they had white cheeks like their mama. They were slight in size but laid a med. brown egg daily from the age of about 4 months. I sold all of them last weekend but I might have a picture somewhere of them and thier eggs. The SLW cross would be interesting you will get some interesting combs.

Here is is back shot. He is not very people oriented and I don't like to catch him and upset him so it is hard to get a picture. I really like his clean legs they are nice and smooth.