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Black Copper Marans throwing White chicks?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by ladywolfe, May 4, 2009.

  1. ladywolfe

    ladywolfe Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Can anyone tell me why this is happening? Out of about 35 eggs I got 5 white chicks and want to know does this happen because of something with temp. or what? Been hatching eggs and this is first time this has happened and they are penned together so nothing else could have gotten to them. They are Wade Jean line. Should I keep the whites? will they breed white? any info would be helpful.

    Thanks

    Ladywolfe
     
  2. sparkles2307

    sparkles2307 Terd of Hurtles

    Wow, I really dont know but wanted to say good luck!
     
  3. SundownWaterfowl

    SundownWaterfowl Overrun With Chickens

    Pretty sure they are recessive whites, and I think you can start a white line from them.
     
  4. Wynette

    Wynette Moderator Staff Member

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    Jeane has a recessive wheaten gene in his line; those are wheatens, not whites.

    I believe there is someone who is planning on breeding the wheatens from the copper blacks, but it's not advisable to do so. Would take years to get them pure, and there's really no reason, since we already have pure wheatens that breed true.

    This doens't mean it's a bad line...it's just a recessive gene that seems to pop up fairly often with Jeane birds. Congrats on your hatch!
     
  5. monarc23

    monarc23 Coturnix Obsessed

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    Quote:I'm pretty sure there are white marans hatched as well, called sports. I'm almost positive on this???


    Yep I just looked it up on the marans club on yahoo there alre also whites that come out of BC lines at times, white and wheaten. I think it would be interesting to get a few sports I may try to breed them. The wheatens are pretty the whites are okay, but they remind me too much of white leghorns
     
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  6. 92caddy

    92caddy Egg Lover

    May 18, 2007
    Portland, IN
    Thats why I dont have or like his line cause they throw wheatons, but thats me.................
     
  7. berkeleysprings

    berkeleysprings Chillin' With My Peeps

    i wish i could see a family tree on who got thair birds from who
    as far as jeane , davis and presley an what they worked on
     
  8. Wynette

    Wynette Moderator Staff Member

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    92caddy - with such a young breed to the U.S., we must work with what we have. That being said, I'm sorta with you on the Jeane line. It's gotten weak, IMO. I have a few, but they are not very nice quality and I'll not be using them in my breeding program. See the pullet to the right in this picture? She's of the Jeane line. In my experience, she is typical of the line.

    She's got WAY too much copper coloring in her neck/hackles; she's got the wrong colored eyes (her eyes are almost green), and she's not heavy enough in conformation. HOWEVER, if she was all I had, I'd use her and try to breed up from there.

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  9. newnanchic

    newnanchic Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ladywolfe,
    I am also in Georgia. If you get rid of them Please let me know. I would love to have them just for me. I have Black Copper Marans and would be glad to trade you eggs for them or even a few of my black copper chics . I have Wade Jeane lines as well and I have never hatched a white or had anyone that I sold to hatcha white. Anyway I would still be intrested in them Thanks Livia
     
  10. Kev

    Kev Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:It just means the breeder birds were carrying a recessive gene.

    Seems there's some debate as to the color.. if the chicks are solid yellow and growing solid white feathers, they probably are recessive whites.. recessive white x recessive white= 100% whites. If you like this color, then go ahead and create a line of whites.

    If the chicks are more cream colored and/or have a stripe on head or back, they probably are wheatens. Again, if you like this color.. go ahead. Wheaten x wheaten from this group should produce 100% wheatens, unless the gene pool also has other surprises lurking in it.
     

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