Black To White Experiment

[MysteryChicken]

One thing I came across this morning while I wasn't even looking for it, check out Progressive Pied in Coturnix Quails? It's got striking similarities.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Sent pictures to someone I found randomly on Facebook who has friends who study Genetics as well. The person was amazed about my birds.

 

[Rillowen]

Hmm ok, well there goes that thought! Unless he was maybe secretly carrying both, or the mom was
If my wild suppositions annoy you just let me know and I'll stop. I'm just enjoying the mental puzzle!
Hmm so Domino only inherited 1 sex link, which is why his bars are light color not no color. So then its actually possible that he didnt pass it on to his daughter, and of course she couldn't get it from mom, so she might have not inherited any sex linked barring at all, but did get the dark from mom and/brown rust plumage from dad. But then why does she change color? Is it completely unrelated to the barring and is a new mutation that caused the dominant gene to become messed up so an ancient recessive gene for color changing came out? Or perhaps the stabilizing/intermittent gene is missing and she did inherit the barring but instead of turning on and off periodically like it normally does it turns All on (white) or all off (black) but the problem with that is that I wouldn't think that her rust speckled would be unaffected.
Yes I'm back to doing a diet study lol.

 

[NatJ]

Hmm ok, well there goes that thought! Unless he was maybe secretly carrying both, or the mom was

Autosomal barring is caused by the pattern gene in combination with several other genes. I don't see any reason to think the pattern gene is involved at all.

Hmm so Domino only inherited 1 sex link, which is why his bars are light color not no color. So then its actually possible that he didnt pass it on to his daughter, and of course she couldn't get it from mom, so she might have not inherited any sex linked barring at all, but did get the dark from mom and/brown rust plumage from dad.

That is how it looks to me, too: that Domino's daughter does not have sex-linked barring.

But then why does she change color? Is it completely unrelated to the barring

It looks to me like the color change has nothing to do with barring.

and is a new mutation that caused the dominant gene to become messed up so an ancient recessive gene for color changing came out? Or perhaps the stabilizing/intermittent gene is missing and she did inherit the barring but instead of turning on and off periodically like it normally does it turns All on (white) or all off (black) but the problem with that is that I wouldn't think that her rust speckled would be unaffected.

My first guess would be the mottling gene. Chickens with that gene will tend to have more white as they get older.

Yes I'm back to doing a diet study lol.

I think that was mentioned sometime a while back in the thread, but it's been a while since I re-read the whole thing.

Next spring I'll cross Dino to this bantam hen, to rule out the Mottling theory. View attachment 3476543

@MysteryChicken Did you do this cross? I don't remember noticing what results you got.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Autosomal barring is caused by the pattern gene in combination with several other genes. I don't see any reason to think the pattern gene is involved at all.


That is how it looks to me, too: that Domino's daughter does not have sex-linked barring.


It looks to me like the color change has nothing to do with barring.


My first guess would be the mottling gene. Chickens with that gene will tend to have more white as they get older.


I think that was mentioned sometime a while back in the thread, but it's been a while since I re-read the whole thing.


@MysteryChicken Did you do this cross? I don't remember noticing what results you got.

I had to put him down due to frost bitten feet.

 

[NatJ]

I had to put him down due to frost bitten feet.

That would be a good reason for not making that mating!

Have you tried crossing a mottled chicken to any of your chameleon ones?

 

[MysteryChicken]

That would be a good reason for not making that mating!

Have you tried crossing a mottled chicken to any of your chameleon ones?

Not yet. I'm not set up for breeding yet. Was planning on doing so after we move out of my Aunt's place.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Mottled, & Mottle Splits I've got.

 

[MysteryChicken]

The Mottled hen at the very top of the pictures is very tiny, would have to A.I her.