blood in poop

[Eggcessive]

Since these chickens have an upset GI tract and some blood in the droppings, now is not a good time to throw a lot of extras at them.With a balanced layer feed, chickens do not need or require anything else besides fresh water, as long as the feed is fresh and well balanced as most commercial feeds are. By giving extras, such as fruits, you may be lowering the protein levels, and sweets may cause diarrhea. I'm not saying to never give them a treat, but it is not required. If I have extra vegetables from my garden, I will give them some. But feeding more than 10% of those treats in the diet can change the nutrients that are required.

 

[Akrnaf2]

Since these chickens have an upset GI tract and some blood in the droppings, now is not a good time to throw a lot of extras at them.With a balanced layer feed, chickens do not need or require anything else besides fresh water, as long as the feed is fresh and well balanced as most commercial feeds are. By giving extras, such as fruits, you may be lowering the protein levels, and sweets may cause diarrhea. I'm not saying to never give them a treat, but it is not required. If I have extra vegetables from my garden, I will give them some. But feeding more than 10% of those treats in the diet can change the nutrients that are required.

You can upgrade your shredded vegetable by adding some shredded cheese or some canned tuna so the percentage of protein in the chicken diet wont be compromised, and actually you elevate the level of the protein that your chickens get! Because the main protein source in chicken feed is vegetable protein, which is in lower biological level compared to animal protein.

 

[StitchGirl]

OK, now I am confused. Give them vegetables or not? They free range whole day so does that not count towards vegetable intake? I know they eat plenty of grass and they completely stripped 2 rosé bushes near the coop.

 

[dawg53]

Too much fruits and vegetables given to chickens causes diarrhea. This from personal experience many years ago and not from google nor books or magazines. Amprolium treats all 9 types of cocci as stated by Eggcessive. The dosages quoted by Akrnaf2 regarding Casportpony's dosages are correct.
Herbs are guesswork as to dosages, contraindications, withdrawal periods and of course, cost.

 

[casportpony]

For the visual types like me, here is a Corid/Amprol dosing picture:



FWIW, I always assume I have a severe outbreak and treat at the maximum amount.

-Kathy

 

[dawg53]

OK, now I am confused. Give them vegetables or not? They free range whole day so does that not count towards vegetable intake? I know they eat plenty of grass and they completely stripped 2 rosé bushes near the coop.

Fruits and vegetables refer to what you eat. Chickens are not human. Chickens, like dogs, will just about eat anything in excess. Dogs gorge themselves then puke. Chickens metabolize it much quicker and passes as diarrhea. Too much goodies can cause more harm than good.

 

[Akrnaf2]

OK, now I am confused. Give them vegetables or not? They free range whole day so does that not count towards vegetable intake? I know they eat plenty of grass and they completely stripped 2 rosé bushes near the coop.

Chicken are exactly like humans in they dietary needs the boat species are omnivores. Personal experience is not necessarily better than research -based information published in books and articles, and I never said that vegetables and fruit should come instead of licensed drug but withe them. my recommendation is to give vegetables and fruit with a balanced feed base diet and not instead off. And I also speak from a long time experience in raising very healthy, long living and very productive chicken.

 

[casportpony]

I feed all things in moderation, except for proper chicken food and oyster shell, those they have available at all times.

-Kathy

 

[Akrnaf2]

I feed all things in moderation, except for proper chicken food and oyster shell, those they have available at all times.

-Kathy

We in Israel don't have oyster shell at all, all the members in the breeders community that I know of, don't use this product and we have very healthy chickens. Do you use this product as a source of Calcium? If the answer is positive, then the feed that you use is not balanced, because balanced feed should provide all the Ca needed by the chickens! I would like to hear your unswear.

 

[dawg53]

Quote: Yes you did, see post #10 in this link:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/978456/blood-in-poop
Do you have children? If so, do you let them eat all the candy and sweets they want when they are sick? Do you give them fruits and vegetables if they are sick and have diarrhea? Of course you dont! You want to do all you can to help your children get well and give them the proper medications to stop the diarrhea, and other medications as necessary.
StitchGirl's chickens have diarhhea. Feeding them fruits and vegetables are fiber which would be the opposite in providing diarrhea relief. Fiber is eaten by humans to help prevent constipation. Chickens with diarrhea lose nutrients, minerals and become dehydrated and emaciated. It's best to stop feeding chickens fruits and vegetables when this occurs and feed only the basics; regular layer feed and fresh water to rehydrate. As a matter of fact,buttermilk mixed with scrambled egg mixed in feed would be best, given for about 2 or 3 days.
StitchGirl; good luck with whatever you decide.