BLR Wyandotte progress

[McSpin]

Fortunately, I gave a few of the better culled cockerels to a friend, so if one of them ends up better then I'll be able to get it back.

So, you're saying cull for color first and body type second? I know photos are tough to judge from, but if I was pressed, I'd say the back is shorter on the line 1 cockerel. He's definitely much wider at this stage. I've tried to pay attention to tail angle and have noticed that they change it according to mood. I had just spread some scratch (to keep them in one area for the photos) and I've noticed that they seem to hold their tail low when feeding. Are good ones supposed to hold the angle at all times?

 

[Mahonri]

I love the color on #2. Wow!

 

[Bantimna]

I must say I like Line 1

 

[M To The Maxx]

Looking good. Also beautiful birds.

 

[lauralou]

They really are stunning. I know nothing about the breed, except that I like the look!

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

this is a very good quality young BLRW roo. He has good type and color, but like all birds, there is still room for improvement. We have some other roos that were hatched the same time as this one and it took them longer to get their "type" and they are turning out to be just as nice as this one, maybe better. Hang in there.......sure isn't fun feeding them that long, but it will be worth it in the end.

Like Turbo said......you need to cull for both type and color becuase the brassy colored hackles are pretty hard to get rid of.

 

[McSpin]

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Sounds a lot like me, when I'm comparing them. LOL - thanks,


Mrs. Turbo, thank you for the comparison photo. On my monitor, your example appears to have color closer to my line 1.

So, does the BLRW have it's own standard yet, or is it something being worked toward? It's not in the latest edition of the SOP.

 

[destiny_56085]

We showed some of ours a couple weeks ago. According to the judges comments, they need to be bigger in size, fuller through the tail, and have to work on combs to compare to other color wyndottes. He actually dq'ed 2 of ours because they didn't have a definite spike off the back of the comb.

Ours are all late bloomers too. Our gals didn't start laying til they were at least 10-12 months old. The cockerels took at least 12 months to finish out.

They won't be in the standard of perfection til enough people get around to showing them. There is a written protocol for getting a new variety approved. So many people have to have proof of raising them for so long and a certain number have to be at a national show. Probably more stipulations that I'm forgetting. Until then, they can only get best of variety.

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

it takes a little time to learn what to look for on color and to tell the difference between the two......if you look on the hackle feathers (neck) and the feathers that drape across the back of your line 1 bird he has a "brassy" color gold....that is not a good thing. You want the same mohagany color that is on the chest of the bird. The line 2 bird isn't showing the brassy color and he is not old enough to be filled out on type....give him time, but I think he will be your better bird.

Also if you look at the actual length of the back from the neck to where the tail feathers pop up on the 1st roo he does have a long back.....the second roo has a much shorter back if you look where the crease is for the tail feathers. They both look relaxed and in about the same position but you can still see the difference.

my husband is much better at this than me so bear with me......

you want the same mahogany red on the hackles as the rest of the bird and that has been the hardest to achieve when breeding...for us anyways. So we are culling out the brassy color even if the rest of the bird is awesome. If you don't have many birds to work with you will have to keep some with good type and brassy color.....just keep raising as many as you have room for and cull.....cull.....cull.....



There is not a standard written yet on the BLRWs as far as correct coloring but we are currently working with Jesse Paul and a few others to get everyone on the same page. When we do start trying to get accepted the majority of the birds have to resemble each other and we all have to breed and cull with the same goals in mind. If you are serious about breeding to a standard with the BLRW visit bluelacedred.com and get in on the discussion board. There are some knowledgeable people there that can help answer questions about the BLRWs.

 

[McSpin]

Mrs. Turbo :

Also if you look at the actual length of the back from the neck to where the tail feathers pop up on the 1st roo he does have a long back.....the second roo has a much shorter back if you look where the crease is for the tail feathers. They both look relaxed and in about the same position but you can still see the difference.

The two photos aren't really very good for comparing the back length. The line 2 bird is quartering towards the camera and the line l bird didn't have it's tail raised at all. In person, I would say the line 1 bird has the shorter back. I won't cull him yet, because my gut feeling is that his type is much better. I won't be hatching chicks until next spring at the earliest anyway, so I'll have lots of time to decide.

If you are serious about breeding to a standard with the BLRW visit bluelacedred.com and get in on the discussion board. There are some knowledgeable people there that can help answer questions about the BLRWs.

I've been to that site many times. The forum seems very inactive, so I haven't bothered to sign up. Maybe down the road if it looks like the forum is becoming more popular that will give me a good reason to go there. I did sign up with the yahoo group and it had almost no discussion taking place either.​