Blue Egg Layers from University of Arkansas

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Skin color is not shank color, but it certainly influences shank color. The example of the Jersey Giants with black shanks (yellow skin, w) and Australorps with the same black shank color (white skin, W) is a factor of epidermal melanin pigment where the melanin is on the outer epidermal layer therefore it essentially 'buries' the actual underlying skin color. But when crossing any White skin (W) bird with a yellow skin (w) bird white is still always dominant. However, that white skin may be influenced by melanin.

If the skin is white and if the melanin pigment is on the outer layer the shank will be black. If the melanin is present in the one of the two underlying dermal layers in a white skin bird then blue or slaty blue will result to varying degrees dependent upon the amount of pigment deposited in those dermal layers.

If the skin is yellow and the melanin pigment is on the outer epidermal layer then the shanks will still be black. If the melanin is present in one of the two underlying dermal layers of a yellow skin bird then green willow or greenish black will result. The degree to which the deposition and expression of melanin in any of these dermal layers will then effect the actual shading of the shank but it will still be in reference to whether the skin is white or yellow unless the pigment is on he outer epidermal layer of the skin.

Bottom line, white skin (W) will still be dominant over yellow skin (w) regardless of the the level or direction of the melanin pigmentation in the dermal skin layers.
 
Last word on this.

Skin color is not shank color, but it certainly influences shank color. The example of the Jersey Giants with black shanks (yellow skin, w) and Australorps with the same black shank color (white skin, W) is a factor of epidermal melanin pigment where the melanin is on the outer epidermal layer therefore it essentially 'buries' the actual underlying skin color. But when crossing any White skin (W) bird with a yellow skin (w) bird white is still always dominant. However, that white skin may be influenced by melanin.

If the skin is white and if the melanin pigment is on the outer layer the shank will be black. If the melanin is present in the one of the two underlying dermal layers in a white skin bird then blue or slaty blue will result to varying degrees dependent upon the amount of pigment deposited in those dermal layers.

If the skin is yellow and the melanin pigment is on the outer epidermal layer then the shanks will still be black. If the melanin is present in one of the two underlying dermal layers of a yellow skin bird then green willow or greenish black will result. The degree to which the deposition and expression of melanin in any of these dermal layers will then effect the actual shading of the shank but it will still be in reference to whether the skin is white or yellow unless the pigment is on he outer epidermal layer of the skin.

Bottom line, white skin (W) will still be dominant over yellow skin (w) regardless of the the level or direction of the melanin pigmentation in the dermal skin layers.

I agree, and while the white leghorn used in the original parent stock my have had lots of hidden genes(like sex linked barring, incomplete albinism, mottled and blue) at this stage of your breeding project I say you can only worry about two that may pop up at any time, mottled and recessive white, but after some many crosses you can discard any possibility of them poping up
 
How did this thread get here anyway? From the pictures I have seen every bird looks to have yellow skin with varying shades of pigmentation making the leg color range from bright yellow to dark green/willow. So white skin must be gone. Now you just have to decide whether to go with a clear bright yellow leg bird or one with willow colored legs. Personally I like the bright yellow.
 
How did this thread get here anyway?

A little birdie did it!
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How did this thread get here anyway? From the pictures I have seen every bird looks to have yellow skin with varying shades of pigmentation making the leg color range from bright yellow to dark green/willow. So white skin must be gone. Now you just have to decide whether to go with a clear bright yellow leg bird or one with willow colored legs. Personally I like the bright yellow.
thats true, their skin seems to be yellow, I guess I started all the fuss when I said clear yellow/white shanks, which got confused really fast, do you really prefere bright yellow shanks? I guess they could look cool like the blue leghorns and this should further separate them from araucana blood and make people less prone to calling them EE..

here nice pics of blue leghorns
http://www.google.com.ni/imgres?q=b...w=134&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:79

hey thats settle it for me, clear crisp yellow shanks should look cool on this breed..
 
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This thread is crazy.. i have been reading though it and saw all the stuff about the skin color. one time i had two chickens breed that had different feet colors and I got this chicken. I thought it was weird but now i think it is really weird. how did it happen.
 


This thread is crazy.. i have been reading though it and saw all the stuff about the skin color. one time i had two chickens breed that had different feet colors and I got this chicken. I thought it was weird but now i think it is really weird. how did it happen.
Cool Chicken.
Welcome to BYC.
 
Folks, lets please stay on topic.
This thread is intended for the discussion of the two new developments of Blue Egg layers from the University of Arkansas. This is not for discussion on Easter Eggers, Ameraucanas etc. Photos and updates will be added as available to post #1.

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We have a few of the B eggs set in our incubator. Does anyone have photos of these? We are actually looking forward to seeing what these look like and how well they lay. These are not an Easter Egger, per se. But a new breed developed in cooperation with the Unversity of Arkansas.

The commercial leghorn blood is not hatchery lines, but research lines from the commercial industry.

The egg is similar in color to his Auracana eggs and vary from medium to large in size.

We plan on keeping a breeding pen of these and seew hat they reproduce.

Can you imagine a Blue Egg layer that lays like a factory, battery layer


The actual "Blue" eggs from U/A in our incubator:




Photo below is of the Research Farm and Poultry Science Department.



 
How can you talk about a "breed" without discussing other breeds that influenced it or went through a similar stage of development? How are you supposed to learn anything?

How is that going off topic?
 
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