Blue Laced Red Wyandotte THREAD!

Hello! New to the blrw, I acquired 10 blrw chicks from a local breeder and 2 blue lace, gold lace cross chicks roughly the same age. They are between 10 and 12 weeks old now, and I'm pretty sure I can discern genders. Both the crosses are male. Then I have a splash male and an incredibly light laced male. Some of my birds that are blue laced are so light in the lacing, it looks almost buff or honey colored. A few of the birds look "buttery" they are beautiful, but it's very light lacing. I will try to get some pictures soon, but obviously I don't need 4 Roosters. What color rooster is the most advantageous to keep? If the lacing on the birds is light. Is that a bad thing? Should I try to reintroduce some dark lacing? Or is the lighter nearly white lacing on the red birds ok or desirable. I certainly think it's pretty, but I want to keep the best stock possible, like everyone I'm sure. So I plan to keep all the females and one rooster. Possibly 2 roos if I were to break them up into trios or quads but right now everyone shares a coop and a large free range fenced area. Please lend me some insight as to which rooster to keep.
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the light one is huge and beautiful, the splash is a little flighty but pretty, the two that are cross have very dark almost black, if not entirely black lacing, but one has a single comb. I have no intentions of keeping the single comb roo, the other cross has the appropriate comb. Sorry again no pictures it has rained for days and the gloomy atmosphere doesn't lend itself well to photography.
I have been thinking about starting with this breed and reading through the thread. It is tedious and I have had to do it with a few threads. My first go was the Marans thread and it took a while - I work full time and like everyone on here have a life beyond the computer. It really helped me understand the breed. The search option can be a bit tedious so I actually copy and pasted information into a word document for my personal records as I read through. I do the same for my Legbars. I think folks just get tired of repeating themselves sometimes, I know I've felt my head bitten off a few times. First was when I posted what i did not then know was my EE roo on the Ameraucana thread. It's hard to sometimes really get the true gist of someone's post as emotions don't always flow correctly online.

In regards to your birds. If I had your birds I'd cull anything that was not pure at the start of my breeding program. Why try to weed out those genes right at the get go. I'd cull the single comb also, why perpetuate something no one wants. I'd choose the best laced birds, male or female. If the light boy is the best then start with him and keep the splash as a back up. I'd try to get some black laced to try to improve your lacing going forward. Perhaps if you cull all the males and get a black laced or dark blue laced rooster that might help your flock going forward. I had a really nice darker blue laced boy I was contemplating keeping but re-homed instead to concentrate on my current flock as I realized I really did not have the time or inclination to take on the challenges of these right now ... maybe next year. If you have to start with what you have, and not everyone can afford to re-buy and re-home to get the ''ideal' starter flock, choose the best and only the best even if you cull down to just a trio or a quad. Posting pics might give everyone a better and clearer idea of what you have and be more helpful with the choices you have ahead of you. Good luck. These are really beautiful birds. Good luck!
 
ya some people are just snobby chicken divas. Especially when you take the time to respond why not just give the answer. Other wise they can just not answer and let you read. But to answer and not give the info is pretty lame since they take the time out of their day anyway to be rude.. And its not always easy to find the info either. Especially when there are thousands and thousands of post. Some people just don't sit at home all day and have hours and hours to spend researching while there hubby is off paying the bills, so don't worry about asking questions. I had a run in with some divas and was rude back. I was quickly reminded that most people on here are very friendly and love to help. 

Some of mine sound similar in some ways. From what I've been told mine are really diluted and i was told to reintroduce some dark lacing, so that more than likely would be what helps you too. You have to work with what you got so don't give up. reintroducing dark lacing should help allot especially if you can get a dark laced with good mahogany color you are back in business. 
hello! Thank you for your pleasant response! I didn't mean to upset anyone earlier with my initial post. I agree with you, most people I have encountered on this site are beyond nice. I assumed people who didn't want to bother answering me would ignore it. Boy was I wrong! :-/

I'm in the genetics PhD program at UAB, taking this semester off to focus on the baby. I'm also a lactation consultant for the local health department. My free time is limited but I would love to know as much about this breed as I can. I assumed it would be something along the lines of incorporating darker lacing. I have seen quite a few with the light pale blue lacing, so I was confused as to which was more desirable. I don't have the funds right now to introduce new stock. I will just have to work with what I've got. Regardless they are very pretty and mostly sweet birds! I look forward to their eggs, I never intended to show or sell, not for profit or glory any way. I think everyone should have chickens! I love them and I'm excited about them, it should be a happy, calming experience to talk to other people about them, so thanks Steen!
 
I have been thinking about starting with this breed and reading through the thread.  It is tedious and I have had to do it with a few threads. My first go was the Marans thread and it took a while - I work full time and like everyone on here have a life beyond the computer. It really helped me understand the breed. The search option can be a bit tedious so I actually copy and pasted information into a word document for my personal records as I read through. I do the same for my Legbars.  I think folks just get tired of repeating themselves sometimes, I know I've felt my head bitten off a few times. First was when I posted what i did not then know was my EE roo on the Ameraucana thread. It's hard to sometimes really get the true gist of someone's post as emotions don't always flow correctly online.

In regards to your birds. If I had your birds I'd cull anything that was not pure at the start of my breeding program. Why try to weed out those genes right at the get go. I'd cull the single comb also, why perpetuate something no one wants. I'd choose the best laced birds, male or female. If the light boy is the best then start with him and keep the splash as a back up. I'd try to get some black laced to try to improve your lacing going forward. Perhaps if you cull all the males and get a black laced or dark blue laced rooster that might help your flock going forward. I had a really nice darker blue laced boy I was contemplating keeping but re-homed instead to concentrate on my current flock as I realized I really did not have the time or inclination to take on the challenges of these right now ... maybe next year. If you have to start with what you have, and not everyone can afford to re-buy and re-home to get the ''ideal' starter flock, choose the best and only the best even if you cull down to just a trio or a quad. Posting pics might give everyone a better and clearer idea of what you have and be more helpful with the choices you have ahead of you. Good luck. These are really beautiful birds. Good luck!
thank you! I didn't realize I could use a black lace. When my husband gets home I will try to get some pictures while they are all outside. I know I need to read the thread, and certainly will. I just thought I could get a handle on things earlier if I asked. It was not my intention to upset and offend any one. It was a general inquiry, I didn't realize chickens could be such a hostile subject. I hope I'm tough enough! Ha!
 
I don't think it's hostility as much as a curt or concise answer may tend to read less friendly than intended. But yes toughen up as culling can sometimes be heartbreaking but so necessary. Read up on blue, black and splash as that's what you have - its termed BBS. I was hoping to make some splash EEs to start but :rolleyes:
 
Quote: black laced RED... don't use a gold. blrw require mahogany red base with either blue black or splash lacing. splash birds will have a lighter red usually, just because of the nature of the fading effect of the splash. and ideally you want to keep the clearest laced birds (thin, uniform laced edge around a nice solid red feather). also required are yellow legs and a rose comb, and a truely wyandotte body type.
 
I don't speak for everyone here, just myself. Based on what you have told us about your birds, I probably wouldn't keep any of them for breeding, you've told us 1. The lacing is very light (darker blue is desirable), 2. The red is "buttery looking", most likely not mahogany (mahogany is what you want), 3. One has a straight comb (definitely no), and 4. You want to start with the best stock possible. Based on these comments, my advice would be to start with something else. I might feel differently after seeing pics if they had excellent type. No, I wouldn't consider keeping the gold laced crosses if I were trying to breed BLR.
I agree 100%

As a note to another poster...about this subject
If you breed a cocker spaniel to a toy poodle you do not get a toy poodle or a cocker spaniel. No matter how you are to breed the puppies, you will never have either until about 10 years of breeding and hundreds of thousands of dollars for food, cares, vet bills, and maintence. Would it not make more sense to just to get the right one in the first place?
My BLRW is now 30 weeks old - any idea when the wyandottes typically start laying?
Post a picture..and lets look at her color in her waddles..see how close she is. Have you done an external exam?
 
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I've tried a few times to do exams, but I'm not really sure what I'm looking for! She's a shy one, I have trouble catching her :)
 
Several months ago I took custody of my elderly mother. She grew up almost all of her life on a working farm and I have been away from home supporting my Husband as a military wife and raising our son and keeping our home and small farm going while my husband was away serving back to back deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq.
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While my husband was away my mother became very ill and was living alone in Washington state while we were stationed at Forth Bragg North Carolina
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. When My husband came home from Iraq and before he had to re deploy to Afghanistan, we traveled to Washington and brought my ailing mother to NC where I could get her the Heart surgery she needed to survive
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. Hubby went back to the Gulf and served an additional year in combat
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, while I nursed my mother for several months and supported her through her year long recovery . Things were looking up. Mom was well enough to move her into a small cottage on a tiny farm about 1/4 mile up the road from our larger farm
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. It took all the savings we had to buy the land and build her little cottage but its done now and she is moved in and finally able to care for herself. I was so happy when my mom ask if she could have a couple of chickens to keep her company on her little place and so I set out to find just what she wanted to make her smile
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. She looked at several books on chickens and fell in LOVE with the BLRW. So, I bought two dozen hatching eggs from a breeder in Georgia and promptly put them in the incubator. I got a great hatch, no complaint there. BUT, over half of the chicks that hatched were NOT BLRW!
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Sooooo..... Ok, we did get six little BLRW out of the hatch and the others we will find homes for, which we did. All was OK, Not great but OK. So I arranged to have a Beautiful Black LRW Roo shipped to me from DMRippy. AWESOME bird
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. I thought to myself, We will do OK with this little group. Three young hens two young roos and My Black Laced red roo, I will hatch my mom some more eggs once they start laying in the summer. We should do Ok in the long run. Last Night we had a terrible storm and a small tornado came through and I lost all but my New Black laced roo and the two young BLRW cockerels
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. I cant tell my mom, it would crush her heart. She comes up to my house to hold them and talk to them all the time. I MUST find some more chicks to replace the ones I lost. I will pay top dollar and I will travel within three hours of Forth Bragg to get them. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!
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If any one can help us out I cant tell you how important this is to my mom. To keep her healthy and on the road to recovery and independence. If you can help or maybe just one or two chicks from a couple different people. I will take any help that anyone can offer.
sorry to hear about your difficulties. i just put 3 blrw eggs in the hatcher, but they had been free ranging prior to being penned, so i don't know if they were separated long enough to get pure chicks yet... we'll find out in 3 more days.
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IF they are blrw, i'd be willing to let them go, but i don't know how far it is from you to here. i'm just outside roanoke VA. the next set will be due may 2, and i just set 10 more tonight (the last for now since i needed their pen for more chicks).

these eggs are the first to be hatched from my trio, since the girls started laying over the winter, and i haven't got any dedicated breeding pens built yet, so everyone is rotating in and out on about a 4 week cycle. for now. but now chicks get priority so hatching will have to wait a bit.
 

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