Blue Laced Red Wyandotte THREAD!

[Fancychooklady]

So....not to change the subject or anything, but one of my new blrw chicks got attacked by my cat yesterday....I accidentally left the lid off their brooder. Anyway, I managed to catch him in the act and saved her from him, but now she's got a little circular patch of skin missing from her head. I cleaned it the best that I could, and she seems to be doing ok today, but I'm not sure if she's completely out of the woods yet. I'm also slightly concerned that 'she' might actually be a 'he'. She's feathering in slower than my other girl, and just happens to be the biggest out of all the babies....by a lot. Any advice for her injury or insight into her possible gender would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, everyone!!

Piper's boo-boo:

Beauty shot:

Little too young for me to sex, but in regards to the wound it only looks superficial . Just spray it with a wound care product like vetericyn or Terramycin .

 

[Fancychooklady]

To each their own.

I don't breed Wyandotte's, but am working on the pattern in another breed, and read this thread hoping for some insight occasionally. 
  
When someone inquires about getting stock from me and they use the word "roo", in the back of my mind I immediately assume I am dealing with a novice, who very likely will move on to a new hobby in a couple years.  I have to admit the thought whether I want to chance the results of years of work advancing a variety to someone who hasn't even bothered to learn the terminology crosses my mind.  Now not everybody is a serious breeder, and just likes a pretty chicken, McMurrey catalog is full of them.    

Just saying.

There are breeders and then there are breeders ! Life's too short to get hung up on ' slang '.
I'm guessing the term ' bator ' must drive some people crazy, yet I see it used regularly on this and other sites.

 

[big medicine]

I agree, life is short, and that there are varying degrees of breeders. Use of the term bator does not bother me.

If you were to go to a large poultry show and listen to the breeders with the top notch birds talk, you will not hear the word "roo" spoken. Unless they are having a laugh over something they read online, or maybe a call they had received. These folks have invested a bunch of years, sweat, and money developing their birds to that level.

On another thread I read here, several people were discussing how incredibly difficult it is to find good top quality large fowl Cornish. And if you could find a breeder, it was even harder to get them to sell stock to someone that was not in their click. They joked about their must be some secret handshake or something. Here again these old guys, have a lot invested in their birds and don't wish to see their efforts ****** away by someone not knowing what they are doing, or more commonly wanting to breed their own version of a broiler meat bird.

My point here is there are certain red flags that will make some breeders suspicious as to the experience level/knowledge of a prospective buyer and they may hesitate to place the results of their years of work in these hands, and then some breeders may just be out for the cash. Just saying that using a word or two might limit the pool of prospective sellers when looking for the genetics that might help put your breeding program over the hump.

I have never shown my birds. But do go to the local shows to remind myself what a proper specimen of the breed looks like, and strive toward that in my projects. Fortunately I am within a couple hours drive time to a few very good shows.

As to my birds, this link will give you an idea on their backstory. http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=29277&page=1

 

[lomine]

I agree, life is short, and that there are varying degrees of breeders. Use of the term bator does not bother me.

If you were to go to a large poultry show and listen to the breeders with the top notch birds talk, you will not hear the word "roo" spoken. Unless they are having a laugh over something they read online, or maybe a call they had received. These folks have invested a bunch of years, sweat, and money developing their birds to that level.

On another thread I read here, several people were discussing how incredibly difficult it is to find good top quality large fowl Cornish. And if you could find a breeder, it was even harder to get them to sell stock to someone that was not in their click. They joked about their must be some secret handshake or something. Here again these old guys, have a lot invested in their birds and don't wish to see their efforts ****** away by someone not knowing what they are doing, or more commonly wanting to breed their own version of a broiler meat bird.

My point here is there are certain red flags that will make some breeders suspicious as to the experience level/knowledge of a prospective buyer and they may hesitate to place the results of their years of work in these hands, and then some breeders may just be out for the cash. Just saying that using a word or two might limit the pool of prospective sellers when looking for the genetics that might help put your breeding program over the hump.

I have never shown my birds. But do go to the local shows to remind myself what a proper specimen of the breed looks like, and strive toward that in my projects. Fortunately I am within a couple hours drive time to a few very good shows.

As to my birds, this link will give you an idea on their backstory. http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=29277&page=1

I can completely understand where you and some of these other breeders are coming from. I would not fault anyone for being hesitant or refusing to sell a bird they had worked years to perfect to someone they thought might not treat it with the respect it deserves.

But that's not what happened here. I wasn't looking to purchase birds from anyone. I was giving advice to another user when a third person came along. I'm sure I didn't give any incorrect information but assumptions were made about my mental capabilities and I was insulted. All because I used the word roo. That's not acceptable on a site that is supposed to be about sharing information and learning. If someone wants to ignore those they think are inferior or not worth their time, that's their right but they have NO right to go around insulting people. Especially considering at one time everyone was new to chickens. If someone is so bothered by the word roo they either need to learn to ignore it, figure out a polite way to educate people on why they think it shouldn't be used, or stay off the site. The site is open to everyone so novices will always be joining; they shouldn't be insulted and scared away by people if they happen to use the wrong term.

 

[big medicine]

I can completely understand where you and some of these other breeders are coming from. I would not fault anyone for being hesitant or refusing to sell a bird they had worked years to perfect to someone they thought might not treat it with the respect it deserves.

But that's not what happened here. I wasn't looking to purchase birds from anyone. I was giving advice to another user when a third person came along. I'm sure I didn't give any incorrect information but assumptions were made about my mental capabilities and I was insulted. All because I used the word roo. That's not acceptable on a site that is supposed to be about sharing information and learning. If someone wants to ignore those they think are inferior or not worth their time, that's their right but they have NO right to go around insulting people. Especially considering at one time everyone was new to chickens. If someone is so bothered by the word roo they either need to learn to ignore it, figure out a polite way to educate people on why they think it shouldn't be used, or stay off the site. The site is open to everyone so novices will always be joining; they shouldn't be insulted and scared away by people if they happen to use the wrong term.

No I agree. I apparently did not catch the original brush up, and probably would, and should, have stayed out of it altogether. My point in chiming in over here was to let folks know that something as simple as using certain terms could put you.at a disadvantage when trying to get stock, or even good information from some old timers, that's all.

I have tried though out my time here to help folks out, if I thought I had anything constructive to add to the conversation. I have dealt with scads of newcomers to poultry, both online and in person over the years, and try to leave them better off from the experience if possible,

 

[lomine]

No I agree. I apparently did not catch the original brush up, and probably would, and should, have stayed out of it altogether. My point in chiming in over here was to let folks know that something as simple as using certain terms could put you.at a disadvantage when trying to get stock, or even good information from some old timers, that's all.

I have tried though out my time here to help folks out, if I thought I had anything constructive to add to the conversation. I have dealt with scads of newcomers to poultry, both online and in person over the years, and try to leave them better off from the experience if possible,

And I think your insight was very informative and helpful. It was also presented in a way that wasn't insulting to anyone. I apologize if it seemed like I was implying otherwise. It is always good to get to know the reasons behind other peoples' viewpoints. The points you shared are certainly things I'll keep in mind if I ever decide to purchase directly from a breeder. I just wanted to point out to everyone that there was no excuse for what was said to me and how it was said.

Also, I looked at the link you shared. Your birds are gorgeous!

I don't want this thread to be steered off course any longer. So let's get back to the lovely BLRWs we all love.

 

[Fancychooklady]

I can completely understand where you and some of these other breeders are coming from. I would not fault anyone for being hesitant or refusing to sell a bird they had worked years to perfect to someone they thought might not treat it with the respect it deserves.

But that's not what happened here. I wasn't looking to purchase birds from anyone. I was giving advice to another user when a third person came along. I'm sure I didn't give any incorrect information but assumptions were made about my mental capabilities and I was insulted. All because I used the word roo. That's not acceptable on a site that is supposed to be about sharing information and learning. If someone wants to ignore those they think are inferior or not worth their time, that's their right but they have NO right to go around insulting people. Especially considering at one time everyone was new to chickens. If someone is so bothered by the word roo they either need to learn to ignore it, figure out a polite way to educate people on why they think it shouldn't be used, or stay off the site. The site is open to everyone so novices will always be joining; they shouldn't be insulted and scared away by people if they happen to use the wrong term.

Spot on. I was seriously considering flagging the conversation and also disappointed that a member with an educators banner was seemingly condoning this kind of behaviour.

Would really like to see this thread get back to blue laced red Wyandotte now.

 

[ProfNancy]

I am looking to purchase a pullet or chicks SLRW. Please contact me if you have one you are willing to part with.

Nancy

 

[lomine]

 
I am looking to purchase a pullet or chicks SLRW.  Please contact me if you have one you are willing to part with.

Nancy

Have you checked the Buy-Sell-Trade section? I don't know what's currently there but it might be a good place to start.

 

[Turk Raphael]

So....not to change the subject or anything, but one of my new blrw chicks got attacked by my cat yesterday....I accidentally left the lid off their brooder. Anyway, I managed to catch him in the act and saved her from him, but now she's got a little circular patch of skin missing from her head. I cleaned it the best that I could, and she seems to be doing ok today, but I'm not sure if she's completely out of the woods yet. I'm also slightly concerned that 'she' might actually be a 'he'. She's feathering in slower than my other girl, and just happens to be the biggest out of all the babies....by a lot. Any advice for her injury or insight into her possible gender would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, everyone!!

Piper's boo-boo:


Beauty shot:

It's a roo.
I'm 99.9% certain of the gender.



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