Blue Laced Red Wyandotte THREAD!

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Type, always type, BUT we also don't want to breed bad traits forward either. They just get worse. Sometimes we need to find new birds to breed forward. For example, I don't breed Marans without feathered legs. They don't have to be perfect but they have to have feathers. It is a DQ if they don't. I would think the same would be true for a BLRW with FLAMES in their hackles. I don't want to breed any birds with DQ's, faults we may have to work with and you have to pick your battles.

Feather shafting, I don't really have any good pics, but you can look at most BLRW they will have it. I have seen pics where the feather shaft is really light colored compared to the feathers. I don't think you can get rid of it 100%, but you can reduce it.

This is they splash I got from Foley. Splash are just lighter red for some reason. Maybe ki4got can shed some light on that.
You can see the feather shafting.

 
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Type, always type, BUT we also don't want to breed bad traits forward either. They just get worse. Sometimes we need to find new birds to breed forward. For example, I don't breed Marans without feathered legs. They don't have to be perfect but they have to have feathers. It is a DQ if they don't. I would think the same would be true for a BLRW with FLAMES in their hackles. I don't want to breed any birds with DQ's, faults we may have to work with and you have to pick your battles.

Feather shafting, I don't really have any good pics, but you can look at most BLRW they will have it. I have seen pics where the feather shaft is really light colored compared to the feathers. I don't think you can get rid of it 100%, but you can reduce it.

This is they splash I got from Foley. Splash are just lighter red for some reason. Maybe ki4got can shed some light on that.
You can see the feather shafting.
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Ok, here's my take on it, explained as simply as i can.
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with the exception of pattern genes (including the e-locus genes), you have mutations that affect one of 2 things. pheomelanin (the red pigments) and eumelanin (the black pigments). most genes affect primarily one or the other, either enhancing (darkening) or restricting (lightening).

Mahogany is a primarily pheomelanin enhancing mutation, but also has a slight eumelanin effect. in which it's causing the red to become darker, by adding black to it.

Blue/splash is a eumelanin restricting gene, that has 2 levels of effect. in heterozygous form (single factor, only 1 copy of the gene), you have the blue. it only partly restricts the black pigments, so the red is still able to be nice and dark (but possibly not as dark as a black laced). with 2 copies of the gene, the black is restricted even more, causing most areas that would normally be black to appear nearly white or pale grey. and since it's restricting black all over, it stands to reason that the black that would be used to make the red darker is not there, so you would likely have a red that's essentially unmodified from what you might see on a gold laced.

at least that's my reasoning. if i'm off, someone please educate me.
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It's fun to watch them change. We had quite a few and are down to the one partridge and the 3 BLR's. One day one looks great, then the next day another look's better. They are still going back and forth. Here's a pic of the other 2. They are sooooooo big! As their feathers open they get more mahogany.
Thanks ladies for sharing all your words of wisdom!
 
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