Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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I don't know any breeders but I would like to chime in and say that the results I have see. It is a good idea to let the youth take on challenges if they want them rather than try to move them to an easier breed. It requires delicate handling. Some kids will be discouraged because they will take it as "these people don't think I can do it, I must not be good enough". The approach my leader took, and the one I take when dealing with youth when their interest is in a more difficult breed is this: tell them that it's more difficult (while being careful not to suggest something easier) and if possible have a friendly judge or extremely knowledgable third party evaluate the birds (or in the case of chicks) the parent stock. This seems like a good time to mention I like seeing newcomers get adult birds, they aren't as vulnerable as chicks, and the quality is known rather than a mystery.
I think this is a good suggestion. I would add to it that if the youth is able to locate a breeder, preferably local but doesn't need to be with the internet and digital cameras, who is willing to help evaluate growing stock and explain why one chick/juvenile is superior to another, the educational value may meet equal that of getting adult birds.

As a VERY not youth getting started in breeding Speckled Sussex, I will be receiving 25 chicks from Tony Albritton tomorrow or Thursday, which he has agreed to help me evaluate as they mature, reminding me early on that it may be a year before I can make final decisions on which to move forward with. When I asked about retaining those with fewer speckles and starting a second group endeavoring to create Red Sussex he was supportive and said it can most certainly be done. I am not in a hurry to win at shows, I am more interested in breeding and moving forward with SOP Sussex, so for me this is perfect. For a youth, just the first half would be extremely helpful, as an experienced breeder can see things in chicks and juveniles a novice cannot, and hopefully describe what it is they see so the novice can develop an eye for seeing what will grow up to be the superior bird.
 
I think this is a good suggestion. I would add to it that if the youth is able to locate a breeder, preferably local but doesn't need to be with the internet and digital cameras, who is willing to help evaluate growing stock and explain why one chick/juvenile is superior to another, the educational value may meet equal that of getting adult birds.

As a VERY not youth getting started in breeding Speckled Sussex, I will be receiving 25 chicks from Tony Albritton tomorrow or Thursday, which he has agreed to help me evaluate as they mature, reminding me early on that it may be a year before I can make final decisions on which to move forward with.

Wahoo! I am so excited for you, Pozees!! Wonderful!

When I asked about retaining those with fewer speckles and starting a second group endeavoring to create Red Sussex he was supportive and said it can most certainly be done.

This is great! Red Sussex need dedicated breeders like you! Yeah! So few strains around. Reds really need another one!


I am not in a hurry to win at shows, I am more interested in breeding and moving forward with SOP Sussex, so for me this is perfect. For a youth, just the first half would be extremely helpful, as an experienced breeder can see things in chicks and juveniles a novice cannot, and hopefully describe what it is they see so the novice can develop an eye for seeing what will grow up to be the superior bird.
Very happy for you,
Best Success,
Karen
 
Quote: Yep, it is high country here. Will check Chanteclers out, never thought of having them here.
Do you live at that altitude all year long? A big question would be mountain predators.....and High winds for the Coop.
Yes, Live here year round, so far so good, have seen some hawks flying with the warmer weather, and a stray coyote, but the coop is close to the house, and a 175 pound dog helps!! Have not seen any racoons, not sure we have them, or possum, or skunks.
 
I think pretty much any breed that is cold hardy, and has a Rose or Pea comb would be really good in your area. Just remember when you look to get stock that altitude changes affect hatch-ability of eggs quite a bit.
Right, will remember that, it really gives me less options. Some in the area buy pairs or trios, as no luck with the eggs hatching at all.
 
There's some great threads over in the incubating and hatching subforum. I was reading one on humidity the other day and I think the consensus ended up being that the higher altitudes needed much higher relative humidity. So might wanna check it out.
 
If I lived in Colorado that high up and cold I would like to get birds that are from my region or even Colorado. There is a Rhode Island Red Breeder named Paul G. he has a very good strain of Single Comb Rhode Island Reds that should do very well in your back yard. He has had them for about four or five years and has got them doing very well.

I have lost contact with him but I am sure Jimmy or someone can send you a personnel Message on how to contact him. What I would do is make a road trip latter on this summer and go to his home and pick out two males and three females as breeders. You would be in great shape. If incubation is a problem maybe a cheap incubator, ask Santa clause next Christmas for a good incubator from Georgia Quail Factory that has a set thermostat about $150. then when you put your eggs in the incubator they have a good chance to hatch. Use the other one of lesser value as a hatcher its only for three days.

There is a organization of breeders in Colorado they have a few shows there you may find some folks who have a breed you may like. Hope this helps you and let us know what you end up with. Maybe some of you who have APA year books or ABA can help us on who the Secretary is. I would call them up and ask for some tips of breeders. Once you locate one they most of the time know who has all the breeds you may like to have. If there is no breeds that you would like you will have to get started chicks from a person.

There is one other family in Colorado who has twin boys I have not seen them post on this thread anymore. They show at the state fair in the junior division and have excellent birds and got some Reds from Paul about two years ago.
 
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If I lived in Colorado that high up and cold I would like to get birds that are from my region or even Colorado. There is a Rhode Island Red Breeder named Paul G. he has a very good strain of Single Comb Rhode Island Reds that should do very well in your back yard. He has had them for about four or five years and has got them doing very well.

I have lost contact with him but I am sure Jimmy or someone can send you a personnel Message on how to contact him. What I would do is make a road trip latter on this summer and go to his home and pick out two males and three females as breeders. You would be in great shape. If incubation is a problem maybe a cheap incubator, ask Santa clause next Christmas for a good incubator from Georgia Quail Factory that has a set thermostat about $150. then when you put your eggs in the incubator they have a good chance to hatch. Use the other one of lesser value as a hatcher its only for three days.

There is a organization of breeders in Colorado they have a few shows there you may find some folks who have a breed you may like. Hope this helps you and let us know what you end up with. Maybe some of you who have APA year books or ABA can help us on who the Secretary is. I would call them up and ask for some tips of breeders. Once you locate one they most of the time know who has all the breeds you may like to have. If there is no breeds that you would like you will have to get started chicks from a person.

There is one other family in Colorado who has twin boys I have not seen them post on this thread anymore. They show at the state fair in the junior division and have excellent birds and got some Reds from Paul about two years ago.
greathorse is Paul's handle here on the BYC

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There's some great threads over in the incubating and hatching subforum. I was reading one on humidity the other day and I think the consensus ended up being that the higher altitudes needed much higher relative humidity. So might wanna check it out.
Will do. Also have the book "A Guide To Better Hatching" by Janet Stromberg. Waiting on a hen to go broody also, may increase my hatch rate.
 
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/619617/high-altitude-meat-birds
Abstract. Tibetan chickens, a unique chicken breed native to high altitude, have good adaptation to hypoxia.
http://ps.fass.org/content/86/7/1384.full.pdf
High Altitude Chickens? - The Classroom @ The Coop
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=49390
Wow, thank you, checking those out!

Thanks Robert, will look into the breeder organizations. I have been in touch with Greathorse, not sure I want RIR, they are ok, but would like to take on a breed that very few are breeding, hence my problem|!!!!! I prefer to raise what everyone else isn't raising, or what is not popular but in need of preserving. I do like a good challenge!

Thank you Jeff, I know he started his incubator up in March, and Pozee has some of his eggs getting ready to hatch,so is definitely an option.
 
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