Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[catdaddyfro]

Hmmm...now, Walt, is this what you understand as "drooping"? I think I've always read "drooping" as being like a weak wing, a wing not held tight, one with hanging kind of loose primaries. What, I'm see with these is something more of a game wing. Is that, then what "drooping" implies? If so, good to know.

This(in bold) is my thinking of what is referred/described as drooping too. Wing angle to me, is the degree the wing is held.

Jeff

Maybe drooping and pointing should be the ques.of differentiation

 

[gjensen]

Hmmm...now, Walt, is this what you understand as "drooping"? I think I've always read "drooping" as being like a weak wing, a wing not held tight, one with hanging kind of loose primaries. What, I'm see with these is something more of a game wing. Is that, then what "drooping" implies? If so, good to know.

That was part of the reason for my question. I have read the description before. I was not clear on the word use. There are many many breeds with the same expression.

 

[gjensen]

Hmmm...now, Walt, is this what you understand as "drooping"? I think I've always read "drooping" as being like a weak wing, a wing not held tight, one with hanging kind of loose primaries. What, I'm see with these is something more of a game wing. Is that, then what "drooping" implies? If so, good to know.

That was part of the reason for my question. I have read the description before. I was not clear on the word use. There are many many breeds with the same expression.

 

[Yellow House Farm]

OK. Let me ask another way. Where the standard states "Carried without drooping", should it be understood as following the slope of the back? Is their room for varience between level and following the slope of the back?
I have noticed a lot of breed's wings described as "carried without drooping". Some descriptions are more specific. Level with the Reds and some very specific like with the Old English. Whenever I read "Carried without drooping", I am left unsettled as to exactly how the wing should be carried.

Yes, this reflects my question back at Walt. I do think you two are right, though, and I think that it is that the wings are to be carried more in line with the back. As I mentioned to Walt, if what my birds are doing is "drooping" then I have been understanding "drooping" incorrectly. I've always thought of "drooping" as being a bit of a loose, lazy wing, a sign of poor vigor.

 

[gjensen]

To YH, the reason I asked you those questions is that you took on a very rare breed. A lot of people go find, buy, and show already good birds. I do not see as much accomplishment in that as taking on a challenge like yours. Then making definate progress is more of accomplishment than the former. I pay attention to your Dorking project.

 

[Mr MKK FARMS]

I'm getting a trio of Heritage Salmon faverolles tomorrow!

 

[Yellow House Farm]

This(in bold) is my thinking of what is referred/described as drooping too. Wing angle to me, is the degree the wing is held.

Jeff

Maybe drooping and pointing should be the ques.of differentiation

This got be thinking, too. So I checked out the OEG description, because these wings are looking more OEG to me. It says, "[...] inclining to meet under the tail..."

They are, of course, wrong, nevertheless: bit by bit.

 

[Yellow House Farm]

To YH, the reason I asked you those questions is that you took on a very rare breed. A lot of people go find, buy, and show already good birds. I do not see as much accomplishment in that as taking on a challenge like yours. Then making definate progress is more of accomplishment than the former. I pay attention to your Dorking project.

Thanks, gjensen, this is also why I wasn't offended, and why I respect and acknowledge Walt's opinion. Anyone who would think that I have Super Grand Champ White Dorkings hiding out here just doesn't really understand the state of affairs and the way of progress. Your comments were welcome. I've noted, too, your commitment to the birds. Its about the birds. Moreover, I like well intended criticism because, as I've stated on other for a, I really do believe that good birds are a community effort: "it takes a village to fix a rare breed."

You are right, though, I am pleased with them in light of their ridiculous rarity. As Bob pointed out, it has been a process of hatching tons, raising out many, culling down to the very few, nd as Dragonlady pointed out, it's about having a picture in your mind....now I just got to fix the wings in my darned picture.

 

[Yellow House Farm]

I'm getting a trio of Heritage Salmon faverolles tomorrow!

Very cool. They are an awesome breed. If you breed for fleshing, they're mighty tasty too.

 

[fowlman01]

Hmmm...now, Walt, is this what you understand as "drooping"? I think I've always read "drooping" as being like a weak wing, a wing not held tight, one with hanging kind of loose primaries. What, I'm see with these is something more of a game wing. Is that, then what "drooping" implies? If so, good to know.

Thats what it means to me. It is tight to the body on your birds and you could describe it like a game bird wing. But it is not where it should be and it is quite different than the illustration of a Dorking. It is not a weak or loose wing by any means.

Walt