Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[DMRippy]

Quote: I am new to all this, but when I read the duckwing, there is BLACK in the wing BAY no color. But in the next comment it says color in the wing bay and bow???? am I reading that wrong? I thought Duckwing looked like the pic posted and like Wheaten Ameraucanas roos...... I don't read that in the description..... confused...

 

[Chris09]

I am new to all this, but when I read the duckwing, there is BLACK in the wing BAY no color. But in the next comment it says color in the wing bay and bow???? am I reading that wrong? I thought Duckwing looked like the pic posted and like Wheaten Ameraucanas roos...... I don't read that in the description..... confused...

There is a type-o on my part it should read while the wing bay is red or white like seen in Black breasted reds and Pyles.


Duck-Wing:
To have coloring in both the wing bow and wing bar while the wing bay is red or white like seen in Black breasted reds and Pyles. Unlike a Crow-Wing which only possesses coloring in the wing bow.

Chris

 

[DMRippy]

Quote:

Thanks....

 

[catdaddyfro]

More info on duck-wing

In a duckwing the wing triangle is groundcolor in appearance but the feathers are indeed bicolor. One flag is mostly groundcolor, the other mostly patterncolor (black or a dilution thereof, in your case blue/gray).
Duckwing used to refer to the blue sheen over a silver duckwing game rooster's wing bar. A crowwing would have a green sheen there.
A crowwing also has a solid black (...) wing triangle area. That difference did not catch the eye of the old gamefanciers...

Edited by Henk69 - 8/19/11 at 8:24am

On a gold/red duck-wing the {wing triangle} is red in color {The wing triangle is made up of the secondary flight feathers on the wing when folded up it makes this colored triangle area of the wing}
A silver duck-wing it is white/silver
on a crow-wing it is black
Jeff

 

[ashandvine]

Very true statements. Of course if you let dogs just breed naturally then eventually they would all look like the wild type canine, or a wolf, or coyote, or whatever. Dog breeds have standards and size to breed for just as chicken breeds have standards to breed for. I am sure if you let horses breed naturally then eventually you would lose the giants Morgans and the miniature horses too. Breeding chickens to meet a standard is no different. I know this is an extreme example and I do know what you really mean. If you let the largest LF breeds reproduce without selection they will all tend to drift towards a smaller weight bird, just like if you breed bantams and ignore weight they will all drift to the larger end of the spectrum. This is what usually happens at commercial hatcheries, they tend to look at visible characteristics, but ignore body weight because it takes more record keeping and effort.

It occured to me that chickens and horses and dogs and cats...these are the only farm animals I could think of where people will keep or breed just for show. Every other animal (again, the ones I could think of and in my limited experience) has a job. So, when I got thinking about it, the idea that people are breeding just for showing and not knowing a thing about showing made me realize why it would be suggested that a book be bought first. Of course, it also made me want to pull my hair when I thought about how easy it is to just 'get chickens' (liking my avatar again). In my mind having chickens is about a job first and then everything else. The chickens here, who I am learning about and will eventually want to show, are primarily a source of life for us-- lifestyle, life lessons and sustanence. The SOP won't change that but the part where I want to show, yes, it makes a difference. I still think having chickens and learning what kind of keeper you are and whether or not you like the breed or breeds you have is an important first step. No carts before horses. If you are one of those people who just has to breed things to show them and chickens are your new life to mess with then, you are right, a book should be gotten first.

ps- those miniature horses can go. Everyone I ever met was mean.

 

[Arielle]

WHen I bought my first labrador, the breeder had only 3 chocolates ( and a litter of 12 chocolates) out of some 50 dogs--she said the chocolates had temperament problems because they were , at that time, only recently accepted into the AKA as a new color for labs. Everyone bred everything without a care for temperament to fill the growing want for that color. SHe was picky. My dog had a great temperament--he was a black with choco mother.

We all enjoy the beauty of creatures, and utility. Many breeds developed out of utility, and then were brought to the next level, aesthetics, by the diligent breeders. Takes time and careful breeding. Generations and decades.

 

[fowlman01]

WHen I bought my first laabrador, he breeder had only 3 chocolates ( and a litter of 12 chocolates) out of some 50 dogs--she said the chocolates had temperment problems because they were , at that time, only recently accepted into the AKA as a new color for labs. Everyone bred everything without a care for temperment to fill the growing want for that color. SHe was picky. My dog had a great temperament--he was a black with choco mother.

We all enjoy the beauty of creatures, and utility. Many breeds developed out of utility, and then were brought to the next level, aesthetics, by the diligent breeders. Takes time and careful breeding. Generations and decades.

Chickens should be bred for temperament as well. Mean roosters will produce mean roosters. Most people don't know that.

Walt

 

[Fred's Hens]

Temperament is absolutely one of my key "must haves" when selecting for the breeding pen.

 

[Arielle]

In my flock of many, hatchery, breeder, marans etc and the mutts, I have a wide variety of temperatments. Only one nasty rooster we have all learned how to not aggrivate- he is the one that flogs if HE thinks we tresspassed and threatened HIS girls. I see other behaviors, and are not sure how to catagorize. I have RIR hens and offspring that are murder on my hands collecting eggs, my kids use a stick to slide under and lift hen to look for hens. THough I wonder what is the point as they call me to collect the egg or leave the egg. I can see a hen protecting her eggs as valuable, but also a pain. THe flogging rooster will eventuallly go; My marans, the boys run the place, and deftly move away from me and stay just out of reach usually.Same with buff orpingtons.

I see many temperaments in my mixed flock. WHat are your birds like?

 

[galanie]

I'm really pretty new at this still, only 3 years, but I have a simple rule: If it causes stress and drama in the flock, it goes, and if it attacks me, it goes. I have some nice, even tempered birds. The ones that weren't are either gracing someone else's flock or were delicious. I was thrilled when I first learned that real breeders most often do breed for temperament as well.