Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Marengoite]

What I do with my over abundance of white eggs is mix them with the other colors we get around here. We have varying degrees of brown eggs, got some Ameracauna mutts this past year for blue eggs, some of my brown eggs lean toward pink, I have a couple marans so have some really dark eggs and then I have all these white eggs. I don't think there is anything prettier than to open an egg carton and see all this different colors all mixed up together. A carton full of white eggs is somewhat boring to look at but when you only have 3 or 4 among all these other colors, they look really nice and crispy white. A very nice blend!

I like that mix & match idea. I'll have to give it a try. Between my Buckeyes and Barred rocks, I'm getting all sorts of brown shading.

 

[fowlman01]

I have an old English game book whic he contributed to, very good book and very understandable

He majored in "Understandable". He could speak at whatever level the listener was capable of understanding..........a true teacher. What is great about his writings is that most are very understandable.........and accurate. I am a retired higher education administrator...20 years. I can tell you that not all educators are good teachers. It is a real find when you discover an individual who can speak at many levels and who has left his ego behind.

I would recommend reading all this stuff as it translates well into usable poultry information for any breed.

Walt

 

[Marengoite]

Right on. The American education system creates a self absorbed narrow minded product that cannot see the bigger picture and cannot think for itself. Many of those types who want everything handed to them also expect that the breeders exist for no other reason than to provide show quality birds to others. Another thing that they don't understand is that not every chick hatched out of even the best quality bird will be a quality bird itself. There are many, many culls produced by even the best matings. These folks think that they can buy 4 chickies from a breeder, end up with a pair, and go on to advertise so and so's line using the name as a marketing tool to sell inferior birds to the unsuspecting. Some breeders go so far as to refuse to sell anything, disposing all of their culls themselves. The narrow minded crowd is often confounded by this practice, not realizing that the breeder is protecting his name and reputation from stupid people. One breeder who doesn't sell birds says that he would rather have people mad at him for what he doesn't sell them than for what he does. The amount of ignorance that exists among the American public is just astounding, and it's increased exponentially thanks to the internet. Profound emotional retardation is rampant. It's one click of the mouse away. People don't want to try to rise above it. They actually enjoy wallowing in it. It's really quite pathetic how they allow themselves to remain so stifled, and not try to improve their situation. Of course politicians and the government love that attitude. They can get away with anything because of it, and take away the rights of the sheeple without so much as a whimper.

Show of hands, please?

How many here are products of the American education system?

rick

 

[fowlman01]

Show of hands, please?

How many here are products of the American education system?

rick

I am, but it was a bit different in the 50's.

w.

 

[Lacy Blues]

I am too and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am a little on the slow side. Sometimes I have to read something a half dozen times before I understand what is being said.

I've had great success however, in that I homeschooled my children and they can out-read me any day of the week. So, I'm happy!

 

[Marengoite]

I am, but it was a bit different in the 50's.

w.

That's what my grandma said. She told us that my parents who graduated in the 50's had it easy compared to the way things were in the 30's. Meanwhile, my kids who graduated in the 00's think their younger siblings are getting short-changed on their education.

Seem it has always been thus.

 

[buffalogal]

My main question is though is this something worth working on? I have heard bits and pieces about this being a true variety back in the day and forgotten.
One article Lee is referring to is a Book Mark A. Fields wrote " The American Dominique A treatise for the fancier "
Page 101 ( Quote)
In the deep south there where also flocks of Red Dominique's, After thoroughly questioning the individuals who remember this variety , the author has determined that in fact , these were a strain of Dominique's not simply poor type Rhode Island Reds or Red leghorns. However this red strain almost never went Broody , making one wonder if red Leghorn was in there Ancestry".

When the actual, authentic breed is still in need of dedicated breeders, I wouldn't, but that's me. It's true that some Dominiques will "bronze" (yellow) at the hackles and over the wings, but it's nothing like a full blown crele (or red), though with cross breeding I've seen that it's possible to get crele, even lemon or blue cuckoo. For me, the novelty of the color quickly wears off when I see how decidedly ugly they are, type wise. Every now and then I've seen pictures of what look to be recently cross bred birds posted around as "Rare, Red Dominiques", but I suspect that's more about hype than history.

Whatever long lost purebred red Dominiques flocks Mr Fields heard stories about (but never actually saw), I'd say these are not it.Not that whoever owns these birds is being in any way shady, I have no doubt they honestly believe them to be "Red Dominiques", but I suspect a few Game chickens (and others) hiding in the woodpile. Dominique is also a breed of game chickens, and they do come in crele. That's not to say the birds in the pictures won't prove to be hardy and perfectly wonderful backyard birds; if they do have Dominique in them they should be all that and a bag of chips. But they are so far off type as far as being Dominiques that they are simply barred birds with (mostly) rose combs. Just my 2¢, YMMV.

 

[call ducks]

i am out of the Candian system... Same thing seeing we fallow the us to most degress

 

[fowlman01]

That's what my grandma said. She told us that my parents who graduated in the 50's had it easy compared to the way things were in the 30's. Meanwhile, my kids who graduated in the 00's think their younger siblings are getting short-changed on their education.

Seem it has always been thus.

The 50's were a good time. After the depression and the middle class was thriving. What granny forgot is that we were born in the 30's, so we had the direct influence of the depression in our lives in some way. The education I received back then would be the equivalent of a second year college student today. They would keep you in the third grade till you were 18 back then if you didn't do the work.

Here are some of the things I saw at the university. Kids didn't know that postage stamps cost money. At move out time they would leave all their computers and TV's cuz they didn't want to deal with moving them. None can spell.etc, etc. If I needed to talk to a student, the only way I could contact them was to text them. They don't pick up their mail, answer emails or return phone calls. They do have awesome hand eye coordination and great knowledge of personal communication devices and applications. Personally I have no problem with any of that.......it's just another generation and we all do it differently.

Walt

 

[Hangtown Farms]

When the actual, authentic breed is still in need of dedicated breeders, I wouldn't, but that's me. It's true that some Dominiques will "bronze" (yellow) at the hackles and over the wings, but it's nothing like a full blown crele (or red), though with cross breeding I've seen that it's possible to get crele, even lemon or blue cuckoo. For me, the novelty of the color quickly wears off when I see how decidedly ugly they are, type wise. Every now and then I've seen pictures of what look to be recently cross bred birds posted around as "Rare, Red Dominiques", but I suspect that's more about hype than history.

Whatever long lost purebred red Dominiques flocks Mr Fields heard stories about (but never actually saw), I'd say these are not it.Not that whoever owns these birds is being in any way shady, I have no doubt they honestly believe them to be "Red Dominiques", but I suspect a few Game chickens (and others) hiding in the woodpile. Dominique is also a breed of game chickens, and they do come in crele. That's not to say the birds in the pictures won't prove to be hardy and perfectly wonderful backyard birds; if they do have Dominique in them they should be all that and a bag of chips. But they are so far off type as far as being Dominiques that they are simply barred birds with (mostly) rose combs. Just my 2¢, YMMV.

Sounds good. Here are my young Crele Penedesenca. I think that their pattern is correct Crele.