Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[BarnGoddess01]

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PRECISELY how I feel about the tobacco. I'm touched and flattered that my neighbour was so generous but the bag remains unopened ....

THis is when I get frustrated that state univerisities seem to only spend research dollars on commerical poultry. WOuldn't this be a very interesting study for an undergrad to test so all of us with back yard flocks could benefit. ( sorry, one of my pet peeves.)

Trouble is, somebody has to pay for that research. The folks with backyard flocks aren't coughing up the $$$$ nor can they, realistically. Same thing in the horse business. It's the race horses that fund ALL the research. (Commercial poultry interests believe all poultry should be raised inside, away from wild bird populations, so somehow, I don't think dust baths with or without tobacco are going to be happening anytime soon for them!!!)

 

[cgmccary]

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I'll gladly take them if you don't want the bag & will send you $$ for the postage (I don't have any tobacco farmers anywhere near me.) I even tried growing some tobacco for this purpose.

Yes, both tobacco and pennyroyal leaf stems added to the henhouse nesting material is excellent in eliminating mites and lice. Chewing tobacco will serve the same purpose. There is a long history of this use with poultry, and it will not hurt your birds.

 

[3riverschick]

This is when I get frustrated that state universities seem to only spend research dollars on commerical poultry. Wouldn't this be a very interesting study for an undergrad to test so all of us with back yard flocks could benefit. ( sorry, one of my pet peeves.)

There is a lot of discussion of using tobacco between 1891 and 1918 in google books. I am sure the recipes are obsolete by now. We have much better things. Just noting that tobacco (dust in lice powders and leaves for the nest) is always mentioned as a staple in the recipes. Tobacco dust was also used in worming recipes.
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Pacific Poultrycraft: Combining Western Poultry Journal
- California Poultry ... page 38 . 1920
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American Poultry Journal, 1914, Volume 45 , page 1211 .
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http://tinyurl.com/bet4997 page 40 , 1914
Poultry diseases and their treatment By Benjamin Franklyn Kaupp
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[3riverschick]

I'll gladly take them if you don't want the bag & will send you $$ for the postage (I don't have any tobacco farmers anywhere near me.) I even tried growing some tobacco for this purpose.

Yes, both tobacco and pennyroyal leaf stems added to the henhouse nesting material is excellent in eliminating mites and lice. Chewing tobacco will serve the same purpose. There is a long history of this use with poultry, and it will not hurt your birds.

Hum,
Maybe I will grow some penyroyal in my herb garden this year.
Good idea,
Thanks! How much do I put in a 4x8 coop?
Karen

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi all! Just a thought about toxic plants like tobacco --- I grow many toxic plants here and often see the chickens / eating them / taking a 'nibble'. I wouldn't offer that to caged / penned birds, because they can't be trusted to 'judge' their tolerance level, as a ranging bird would do (ie, gobble it all up just because it was there).
My chickens will eat nicotina(tobacco) foliage, castor bean seeds and foliage, datura seeds and foliage, etc. and with a very few exceptions ( I have had youngsters that died from symptoms of toxic overdose, but I saw they were being weird overeating the 'bad' foliage --- as in standing and clearing all the foliage in reach off a plant and flopping over) have always been healthy and pest-free (other than the dead-few).
Now, I'll go back to reading and enjoying all your comments : )

 

[OSUman]

Why would they waste their money where they wouldn't get any return?

THis is when I get frustrated that state univerisities seem to only spend research dollars on commerical poultry. WOuldn't this be a very interesting study for an undergrad to test so all of us with back yard flocks could benefit. ( sorry, one of my pet peeves.)

 

[gjensen]

Lacy, Bridgette's Catalanas in the photos that Walt shared are decendants of Jay's birds. She quit with the Minorca crosses.

Jay's birds are five years removed from Ideal, and Ideal started with Romig's birds. Funny, how all of it ties together.

Obviously, both of them have done very well with them.

 

[winniem13]

We are making outdoor runs this weekend. We live in the south, main predators are hawks and dogs. Going to put net overtop 15 x 7 feet, 3 side by side. Would you recommend burying the galvenized wire or not? Has anyone had any experience with something digging under the fence? They will be locked indoors during the night (its a converted cucumber grater building) so nothing can get in unless they have fingers. I'll post pics when we are done.

 

[jaman4]

Hi Winnie,
You are becoming quite the builder.Guess what ,It is never ending.Welcome to exhibition poultry.

 

[Lacy Blues]

I've had something dig under my fence. I'm pretty sure it was a dog or coyote that came in at night. Our ground here is really soft. It hasn't been back. I don't know how soft your ground is but if needed, and you can afford it, you can get some brick pavers to line the outside of your fence with. Or if you live near a dry river bed or have lots of rocks nearby, you can put a bunch of them outside your pens. Or you can bury the wire down about 6 inches and then bent out and have about 2 feet of it underneath the ground, outside your fence.

gjensen, I am waiting to hear back from Bridgett so I can make sure my information on her is current. At the very least, I will see her at the show in Stockton in about a week and a half. I haven't forgotten you.