Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Chickens Naturally]

I got the male for you that will shave light years off your program. He has the station, tail...the whole works. Someone "gifted" this specimen to me by throwing it over my 6ft fence....I know it didn't fly in. It looks like it has everything you need Bob. As soon as it cools down I will ship it off to you. With some breeding suggestions. Throw one of your RIR bantams with him and you will get the single comb and away you go..........how lucky you are that I just have him running around.




Walt

Not sure what ya got there, but I had a huge Cochin x Silkie cross Rooster that could fly pretty well. He would fly way up to the barn rafters or in trees to roost

 

[fowlman01]

This thing sleeps on the ground.

W.

 

[Yellow House Farm]

Three generations of inbreeding is a frightening thought for me. Like genes attract each other; as well as strengthening the desirable virtues, one would be doing the same on the weaknesses. Unfortunately, the weaknesses seem to show more strength when doubled up on. How does one work around this dilemma? With line breeding, one has a bit of space/ chance to to play around with; but, when it comes to inbreeding, it is quite a dangerous tight, narrow line.
Lual

It's fine. Of course, you have to hatch a respectable number and cull those that show undesirable traits.

 

[lualshannon]

I am starting to understand a bit the in breeding techniques practiced, and am thankful for the lessons learned from the experienced breeders, thank you!!

 

[Chickens Naturally]

Nothing hard about following a line breeding program its knowing when to start. Think of it like cloning. You don't want to clone faults. You want health, vigor and no known faults. The unknown and recessive faults will surface and you cull, eliminating the faults from your line and 'fixing' (locking in) the good.

You want to practice complimentary mating until you have something worthy of cloning.

 

[3riverschick]

The Sage of Natick, Isaac K. Felch


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The Breeding and Management of Poultry; Or, Thorough-breds for Practical Use
By Isaac Kimbal Felch 1877
Part 4 : Discussion of the Board
Excerpt from Page 51 :
Mr. Hersey of Hingham. Mr. Felch says that close breeding in and in tends to sterility. I would like to inquire if he has had any actual tests of this, and if so, what difficulties he has encountered.
Mr. Felch. What I mean by in and in breeding is breeding birds of the same blood or pedigree together. I always take pains when I am breeding in line, "breeding in," as I term it, to so mate that there will be a change of blood, and secure the chick in blood different from sire and dam. It is always better to breed back to the sire than to breed the chicks together. When introducing a new element of blood, I find often-times that this works well. This is a rule I have followed for twenty years. I believe I was one of the first to adopt this course. I never buy a male bird, and consequently I have been obliged to make this new blood for scores of others ; and when I buy a new bird, I treat it in that way, breeding the pullets of the first cross right back to a sire of that strain, and never use a male bird until I have reduced the foreign blood to one-fourth or one-eighth. Now, if you breed in and in for three generations, that is, breed brothers and sisters, in three generations, it will be almost impossible to hatch an egg.

Mr. Hersey. Have you had any actual tests of it?
Mr. Felch. Yes, sir; I believe, as a rule, the statement I make will hold good. There may be exceptions; there are exceptions to all rules. But I think if any one follows that rule, so that he will know exactly what he is doing, he will find that I am correct. But the fact is, a great many do not know. They will have a flock of birds, and they will save a young cockerel from them and breed from them, thinking they are all of one blood. If they will start from one single dam and breed her chickens together, and their chickens, and then a third lot, I am quite sure they will reach a point where the eggs will not hatch. Unless you have a flock of hens in one inclosure, you can see how easily you lose the track of them. You cannot get uniformity unless you breed your line of sires to the same strain of blood. I think any one who has tried it will agree with me in what I have said on that subject.
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Poultry Culture: How to Raise, Manage, Mate and Judge Thoroughbred Fowls
By Isaac Kimbal Felch 1888
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http://tinyurl.com/lwquuzb
American Poultry Advocate, Volume 26 , Oct. 1918 , Page 602
Death Claims a Grand Old Man.
History of the Sage of Natick, Isaac K. Felch, the Father of Poultry Culture in America, Passed Away at His Home.
By MICHAEL K. BOYER, Associate Editor.
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[Robert Blosl]

Quote: Thanks Walt. When he shows up put a dozen of those road runner ducks you got. I think they call them Indianan Runners.

Told my wife about a purple Seroma I mean Blue Seroma she said don't bring back those memories of the Rock Club.

Going to see my chickens tomorrow have not seen them since Tuesday. Thanks to my wife for feeding them. Boy I owe her big time.

Feeling good however. Thanks for the concerns I am tough. But it was a rough road getting three antibiotics three times a day to cover me till they found the right bug in the culture. Got stuck by a cat fish two weeks ago then after 112 days my hand got infected big time.

Good thing I did not try to play doctor and wait till Friday. Could have been my ticket to the big Chicken Show in the sky.

Thanks Walt again. To you folks do you know what a Sarcoma is? Is it a Heritage Chicken?

bob

 

[Lacy Blues]

Thanks Walt. When he shows up put a dozen of those road runner ducks you got. I think they call them Indianan Runners.

Told my wife about a purple Seroma I mean Blue Seroma she said don't bring back those memories of the Rock Club.

Going to see my chickens tomorrow have not seen them since Tuesday. Thanks to my wife for feeding them. Boy I owe her big time.

Feeling good however. Thanks for the concerns I am tough. But it was a rough road getting three antibiotics three times a day to cover me till they found the right bug in the culture. Got stuck by a cat fish two weeks ago then after 112 days my hand got infected big time.

Good thing I did not try to play doctor and wait till Friday. Could have been my ticket to the big Chicken Show in the sky.

Thanks Walt again. To you folks do you know what a Sarcoma is? Is it a Heritage Chicken?

bob

Is this a trick question?

Sarcoma... ummm... cancer comes to mind.

 

[Canieldonrad]

I think I 've seen that Langshan before Walt. Must fly pretty well to make it from Kentucky to California .

 

[lualshannon]

My New Hampshires are now 10 wks. old. I am very surprised at the fast rate they have been growing. Lately, they started to develop a sheen over their crisp, clean burnt sienna color. They are pleasure to have and watch them develop. Well, needless to say; I simply love them : )





























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