Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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Back to processing... for the last few years, I've averaged at least 100 large fowl barred rocks. I've given up on plucking, I can't justify the extra time. I second the opinions that you should age the birds in the fridge (day or two) and hold them for a week before killing in a smaller pen. When processing I cut off the feet at the hocks and the wings at the elbow. Make a small cut in the breast skin and then pull the skin off leaving it attached at the tail. I then cut off the tail and around the vent, make another cut into the abdomen and connect to the cut around the vent. Holding over a bucket I can pull all the guts out still attached to the skin. Takes less than 5 minutes. Smaller cockerels, before their testes get much bigger than a kidney bean are just fine skinned and slow baked (cover with foil or a lid half way through and they are just fine). Larger cockerels can be pretty tough. For them, I'll do the same but cut off the breast meat, which gets tenderized and cooked as cutlets. The rest of the carcass goes towards chicken soup, pot pies, or chicken salad. I enjoy eating the chicken I've raised, but haven't been impressed with any of it either. I do not like letting it go to waste. I guess I'm just minimizing my losses. Actually some of the best fleshed carcasses I've processed for their size were sumatras and leghorns (both birds flew very well and had fuller breasts). lacy blues also mentions "breasting", i've done it on pheasants and ruffed grouse, doesn't work well for me with chickens.. If I'm in a hurry, I just make a quick cut in the breast skin and tear the skin back and to the side, you can filet off the breasts real quick with the bird on its back, then pull the skin off the legs, cut out the leg quarters and toss the carcass. You get two breasts and two leg quarters without pulling feathers or having to mess with the guts. Seems wasteful, but really you aren't loosing that much if you weren't going to make stock out of the carcass anyway.
Rich L.
 
Back to processing... for the last few years, I've averaged at least 100 large fowl barred rocks. I've given up on plucking, I can't justify the extra time. I second the opinions that you should age the birds in the fridge (day or two) and hold them for a week before killing in a smaller pen. When processing I cut off the feet at the hocks and the wings at the elbow. Make a small cut in the breast skin and then pull the skin off leaving it attached at the tail. I then cut off the tail and around the vent, make another cut into the abdomen and connect to the cut around the vent. Holding over a bucket I can pull all the guts out still attached to the skin. Takes less than 5 minutes. Smaller cockerels, before their testes get much bigger than a kidney bean are just fine skinned and slow baked (cover with foil or a lid half way through and they are just fine). Larger cockerels can be pretty tough. For them, I'll do the same but cut off the breast meat, which gets tenderized and cooked as cutlets. The rest of the carcass goes towards chicken soup, pot pies, or chicken salad. I enjoy eating the chicken I've raised, but haven't been impressed with any of it either. I do not like letting it go to waste. I guess I'm just minimizing my losses. Actually some of the best fleshed carcasses I've processed for their size were sumatras and leghorns (both birds flew very well and had fuller breasts). lacy blues also mentions "breasting", i've done it on pheasants and ruffed grouse, doesn't work well for me with chickens.. If I'm in a hurry, I just make a quick cut in the breast skin and tear the skin back and to the side, you can filet off the breasts real quick with the bird on its back, then pull the skin off the legs, cut out the leg quarters and toss the carcass. You get two breasts and two leg quarters without pulling feathers or having to mess with the guts. Seems wasteful, but really you aren't loosing that much if you weren't going to make stock out of the carcass anyway.
That method is called "spatchcocking" YellowHouseFarms here on BYC has a write up on this method in his thread Farming and Homesteading Heritage poultry.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/447684/farming-and-homesteading-heritage-poultry

Well better getting back to Heritage talk or Bob will get on to us. I do eat my Heritage birds even if it seems gross to some. I know what they've been fed plus I know how they were processed in a clean environment and not plastic wrapped and frozen at Tysons or Countrypride with a slab of botulism for a desert treat. I can't justify WHY to NOT do it. I like to get all my monies worth when I do something as I don't rationalize wasting too much!

Jeff
 
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You can't bruise meat if the heart isn't pumping blood thru the vessels to cause a contusion, yes the plucking machine will occasionally break a leg bone or wing but nothing a good sharp boning knife can't take out if you deem it necessary to remove it. If you find a bruised part, it was caused before slaughter.

Jeff

I thought that might be the case. Thanks for clarifying.
 
Where is everyone?
Karen

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Jeff

Ok I am going to go do the chicken chores and that will get the ol'thumping gizzard a pumpin'
 
Folks, there have been multiple comments/questions/etc concerning the "dual purpose" of some heritage breeds, especially as it pertains to using some of them as meat birds.

I've "dressed" a few of my Rocks, but overall I've not been impressed. I'd love to hear how/when some of you process your "culls" for the table. I've skinned everything I've processed and perhaps that's the problem (??). Even in the crockpot, they were a bit "stringy". Maybe they were just too large. Do any of you have a timeframe you use for the age to process them? An age at which they're too old?

Also, I really don't want to purchase a $1000 plucker but would like to put some of the 100+ birds I raise that "Don't make the cut" into the freezer. It would certainly justify feeding so many for so long.

Anyone have advise/experience to share? I'm a hunter and a fisherman, so I'm up to trying about anything

Thanks


IMO skinning a chicken is a big mistake: the skin is where the flavor is. The fat & collagen contained in the skin keeps the meat moist during cooking which aids in tenderness as well as flavor. Any chef will tell you "fat is flavor".
I'm fortunate, there's a small animal slaughter house 5 miles away. I take them chickens in the morning & pick them up after 3pm ready for the freezer. All for $1.25 each. Much better than doing it myself as I can be a bit lazy.
 
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I would love to see some pictures of your Campines. Could you post some? And, if you don't mind my asking, where did you get them?
 
IMO skinning a chicken is a big mistake: the skin is where the flavor is. The fat & collagen contained in the skin keeps the meat moist during cooking which aids in tenderness as well as flavor. Any chef will tell you "fat is flavor".
I'm fortunate, there's a small animal slaughter house 5 miles away. I take them chickens in the morning & pick them up after 3pm ready for the freezer. All for $1.25 each. Much better than doing it myself as I can be a bit lazy.
Wow, $1.25 per bird...why would you ever want to do it yourself for that price? I don't think that's lazy at all!!!

Chris
 
Wow, $1.25 per bird...why would you ever want to do it yourself for that price? I don't think that's lazy at all!!!

Chris
Wish I could find a place around here to process them at ANY price....being in Ga, the Poultry Capital of the World, you would think someone would be out there. My guess is there are too many "govt regulations" to make it worth wild
 
Wish I could find a place around here to process them at ANY price....being in Ga, the Poultry Capital of the World, you would think someone would be out there. My guess is there are too many "govt regulations" to make it worth wild
The best deal that I have been able to find by me was with a lady that came and got birds from me a while back. She told me that if I gave her 3 birds she would process them all and give me 2 back, so a 2 for 1 kind of a deal.

So far, knock on wood, I've been doing really good selling off my culls at the local swaps. Heck, I sold 34 birds this past Sunday in about 1.5 hours! Made enough money to buy feed for the next 4-5 months!!! I was happy with that for sure!

Chris
 
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