Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[thedragonlady]

I don't know who showed them, but my opinion is - - - -
well, I didn't like them.

As Bob said, "Nice Turkeys." Not like you New Hampshires.

 

[3riverschick]

Ok, from the pics Starrose sent of her Dorkings, I am a real fan of the boy in the bottom pic which is marked #3. Also really like the 2 hens... one in the 3rd row center and 5th row right-hand hen. Yeah, the hen's tails need work, yet pretty body type.
Best,
Karen

 

[Robert Blosl]

Quote: I don't know who showed them, but my opinion is - - - -
well, I didn't like them.

I was a little sarcastic in my post or what my elders use to say a smart X ss but they look just like the New Hampshire Reds we got from Sears and Montgomery Wards when I was a boy in the mid 60s. I did however, once see some real McCoys New Hampshire's that came from Ken Bowles at a FFA teachers home. They look like the German Reds of today.

Its still good to see pictures to test our eyes. To teach others what is out there. The Dorkings are a neat breed and god knows they need support from not one but many people. A friend told me of a old Houdan breed that needs help. Many of us need to have one large fowl breed to just keep going. Dont worry about winning champion large fowl of the show with them but to at least make them look like they are true to standard and not yard culls or mutts.

Thanks for all your pictures I sure do enjoy looking at them.

 

[3riverschick]

Ok, so my sis sent me this book for my birthday. Titled, " Letters of a Woman Homesteader", by Elinore Pruitt Stewart, Published in 1912. These are actual letters she wrote to a friend, made into a narrative of her Homesteading experience. On Page 5 she writes, " We have the finest flock of Plymouth Rocks and get so many nice eggs.". Thought that was cool, since she wrote it from the far frontier of rural Burnt Fork, Wyoming on April 18, 1909. This was still the Wild West which Louis L'Amour states did not end till the last stand-up gunfight in a street in 1916.
Just goes to show how far afield the Plymouth Rocks were in that era.
Neat,
Karen

 

[7961]

Anyone heading to the Ohio National Poultry Show this weekend?

I can only make it tomorrow to check things out, visit, and to see what is for sale in the sellers area.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Could some of you who may be former or current Show Sectary help me figure out what show coops that are about 20 to 30 years old may be worth.

We have a standard four hole bantam coop

We have a standard four hole bantam coop still in the box never opened.

We have a two hole large fowl coop

We have a two hole large fowl coop in a box never opened.

They show went out about 20 years ago. The former sectary kept the cages at his home in a barn. He died the new owners have no clue what they have. We need about 400 bantam holes and say 100 large fowl holes.

We would love your advice on what the going rate would be for these cages in the box and the ones just laying on the floor. I posted this on another site. You would think a product that cost say $60. twenty years ago that has been used should be worth about 1/3 of its original value. I dont even know what the retail price is today for the above coops. This is for our show in Pensacola Flordia.

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[thedragonlady]

Could some of you who may be former or current Show Sectary help me figure out what show coops that are about 20 to 30 years old may be worth.

We have a standard four hole bantam coop

We have a standard four hole bantam coop still in the box never opened.

We have a two hole large fowl coop

We have a two hole large fowl coop in a box never opened.

They show went out about 20 years ago. The former sectary kept the cages at his home in a barn. He died the new owners have no clue what they have. We need about 400 bantam holes and say 100 large fowl holes.

We would love your advice on what the going rate would be for these cages in the box and the ones just laying on the floor. I posted this on another site. You would think a product that cost say $60. twenty years ago that has been used should be worth about 1/3 of its original value. I dont even know what the retail price is today for the above coops. This is for our show in Pensacola Flordia.

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Unless the coops are rusted or bent, they are like tractors....worth about 1/3 less than TODAY's prices, including freight. Are these by Keipper, or Collapsible? Floors ? Trestles?

 

[3riverschick]

Anyone heading to the Ohio National Poultry Show this weekend?

Nope. Spent my money to ship my new flock down here. They should arrive next week, Yahoo!!
Karen

 

[normanack]

She's a lovely Dorking. Yes, I see the type. I was just tired from last night's election viewing. Actually, I love the length of back. Hard to do. Plus the lovely full breast. If I can do that with my Sussex, I will be a very happy camper.
Karen

I just noticed that My Pet Chicken is carrying Silver Grey Dorkings for 2013 at $5 each. I think they buy from various suppliers, right? They're not one big hatchery?

On the assumption that there are not many of these birds around, I'm wondering what the quality of their birds is likely to be -- whether they are really Dorkings vs. "Dorking-like" (as I've read some hatchery birds are not really what they're supposed to be -- Dominiques and Delawares, for instance). Or if they've contracted with a breeder who has decent, or at least genuine, stock.

Thoughts welcome, thanks!

p.s. excuse the stupid newb if this is a dumb question.

 

[Pozees]

I have what I know are novice questions, but I'm a novice when it comes to a focused breeding endeavor in chickens. I asked on another thread, but was wisely advised to ask here. Some questions are modified but the essential purpose is there.

1 - If starting with a new breed one wishes to breed to SOP, with none of the desired breed currently owned, is it best to seek a breeding pair or trio from an established breeder willing to part with such, or with a larger number of chicks or hatching eggs from a breeder or hatchery and culling to retain only the best 3, 6, 10 for future breeding? Is this breed-dependent? In other words, does it depend on US population of SOP-close birds as opposed to retaining/expanding current gene pool?

2 - Is it on either side of smart to foray into multiple breeds one is interested in?

3 - do you set any financial goals or parameters? If so do you stick to them? and also if so, do you base your parameters on sales of chicks/started juveniles you selected out of retaining for future breeding, or do you simply sell a certain number/percentage of chicks hatched regardless?

4 - Is there a fixed number of future breeders you winter over or is it dependent on the quality of the spring/summer hatch?

5 - are there heritage breeds known to be inherently profitable? Needed? Neglected?

6 - is there any such thing as the perfect breeding plan?

Asked as a returneee to chickens, fond of more than one breed, particularly non-whites due to predator concerns, and especially endangered and rare breeds. No LGDs or other LG - use electric-fence-protected run when not home (4 days/wk) but free range when here (the other 3).

Tons more questions but these are starters.