Borotto Automatic REAL 24 for shipped eggs?

[Erba]

I am thinking about getting this Italian incubator, now that I am going to be getting more shipped eggs soon. I only have 2 still air incubators here, and both only have the rolling method of turning the eggs, not good for shipped eggs. It looks like a good incubator, even for non shipped eggs. It has a fan and a water outlet on the outside, that really impressed me. Here in Germany on Amazon it costs 160€ and 100€ for the humidity gadget, if I wanted to buy that later. At the moment my budget can't afford it. Has anyone tried hatching shipped eggs in this machine, or has it and can tell me how good their hatch rate is?

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Congratulations on graduating from the two still air type.
Have you seen any reviews of it?
I like the ability to fill the water reservoir from outside.
Incubation is only as good as the ability to maintain temperature accurately.
Do you have a guaranteed accurate thermometer? Never rely entirely on the incubator display. They can easily be inaccurate.
Are you going to use one of your still air incubators as a hatcher?
Good luck!

As for shipped eggs, I wrote the following in another thread discussing detached air cells.

"I may be a rogue or outlier but I completely disagree with all the claims about reattaching and not turning the first several days. IMO that is the absolutely wrong approach.

First, the air cell isn't a separate entity that stays in one place. The egg when produced, contains two membranes. One against the shell and the other that surrounds the albumen. The air cell opens up immediately upon being laid due to cooling and contraction of the ingredients. That air cell is between the two membranes. If the air bubble floats around in the egg, that means that the inner membrane has ruptured. No amount of letting the egg sit upright will move the air through that rupture and seal the membrane.

Add to that the importance of turning the first 7-10 days. Beginning turning frequently day 0 is critical for development of extra embryonic membranes that allow the embryo to uptake nutrients. "

 

[Erba]

I like people that think for themselves. I had a hard time getting my head around the not turning in the crucial phase as well. The settling is ok, but most of the machines today have gentle turners. Yes I really want an incubator with a fan now, and yes I do have a thermometer and a hygrometer. I use them in both of my still air incubators already. I think I am going to go for this machine, it is not really well known here in Germany, and I only came across because someone in my FB group, said a friend had recommended it so he bought it and loves it now.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Recommendations from friends is a good start.

On another note, I found this Bluetooth thermometer hygrometer that reports to an in range smart phone. It is extremely accurate and samples minute by minute.
It is very reasonably priced and may be available across the pond.
https://www.amazon.com/Govee-Thermometer-Hygrometer-Bluetooth-Temperature/dp/B07R586J37

 

[Erba]

So excited, they notified me that my incubator left the factory in Italy today, so it's on the way to me!
I asked the breeder to send me my hatching eggs, mid next week, because I don't know exactly when the incubator will arrive. Amazon says 8th to 11th. i also asked the breeder if he could write glass or something on the box. Last time he didn't even put fragile on it, and all 20 eggs were saddled. So he said he'd do that for me this time. Just hoping the post people will read it and not just chuck it with all the other packages...

 

[ChickenCanoe]

So excited, they notified me that my incubator left the factory in Italy today, so it's on the way to me!
I asked the breeder to send me my hatching eggs, mid next week, because I don't know exactly when the incubator will arrive. Amazon says 8th to 11th. i also asked the breeder if he could write glass or something on the box. Last time he didn't even put fragile on it, and all 20 eggs were saddled. So he said he'd do that for me this time. Just hoping the post people will read it and not just chuck it with all the other packages...

Congratulations! I wish you success.
I was going to ask if you have had things shipped from Italy before and how long it took.
Every country has different post experiences. For my whole life our postal service has been great - till recently. I've stopped shipping eggs till they get the delays worked out. That may not be till we have a new president.
Other than not marking the package as fragile, how were they packed?
I ship my hatching eggs in foam egg shippers where each egg has a dedicated hole in a block of foam and the foam block is surrounded by reinforcing corrugated board sheets.
I always mark the package as 'fragile' and sometimes that it contains 'live embryos'
Most of our system is automated so rarely does someone touch the package between the time it is processed at the receiving post office till the time it arrives at the destination office.
It is possible to purchase special handling for eggs where it is hand carried the entire way. None of my buyers have opted for that extra charge yet.

Wow! I just thought to look up where you live. You are way down there in the SW corner of Germany/Deutschland.
The closest I lived to where you are was in the Stuttgart - Möhringen area. I have been to Zurich a couple times. I think that is closer to you than Stuttgart.
I lived in a tiny town called Faulbach am Main. I spent a lot of time over the years skiing in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy.

 

[Erba]

No, I haven't ever had anything sent directly from Italy, but I think is a bit like Austria, so it will take a few days at least. Well the breeder actually packed the eggs quite well, none were broken or cracked, that's why it was a shame he didn't write fragile on them. I'm not sure where the factory exactly is in Italy, but it takes about a four an a half hour drive from here where I live to Venice. I think all our post goes through Stuttgart, but I have no idea if they are even going to send it by post or on a truck. I will see when it gets here, and how long it took. It's free shipping, so I can't complain...lol

 

[Erba]

Yippie! The incubator came today! Sent by GLS parcel service, and wow it was quick! I'm going to unpack it later. because I have to get back to work. So excited to see how well it works.

 

[Tre3hugger]

Yippie! The incubator came today! Sent by GLS parcel service, and wow it was quick! I'm going to unpack it later. because I have to get back to work. So excited to see how well it works.

Congrats. I have had my eye on this incubator for next season. Let us know how it goes!

 

[Erba]

Sure will, got it on the first test run right now with two thermometers and a humidity gage, just have to recharge the battery on the digital 2nd humidity gage and then that will go in too.