Brahma color mixing...

[Carelessmessage]

Thank you very much, the thing is that i ve found the link a couple days ago but because i didnt se the blue partridge x dark combination i thought that it was diferent than the partridge x dark, but now i get it thanks everyone
I ve also spoke with the breeder (the one that gave me the eggs) and told me that if i breed the dark with my female splash im gonna get bso.
Here is a photo of the Dark rooster,orange splash, and sussex.
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Your welcome. Theres a chance for it. As BSO looks like a blue dark hiding the partrirdge gene, the gold can leak thru. Depends on what you want. did you want darks or a bunch of different colors? just think of partridge and darks as BBS. blue partridge (blue), partridge (black),splash partridge(splash). Blue dark(blue), Dark(black), splash dark(splash). with dark males hiding the gold gene, some gold can leak thru.

 

[ilias_sp]

Hello everyone!! i finaly got to incubate some of my brahma eggs...
I used eggs from my BluePartridge hen (the father is the Dark Rooster)
I got 2 color variations.

Ι'm 99% sure that the chick on the right is Dark, but im not sure if the other one is Blue partridge(altho i hatched the mother and 2 more blue partridges last year, i had many colors on that batch, and i dont remember how they looked when they were young...)
so if im not wrong, the chicks i hatched from this hen are all blue partridges and darks.
(i also hatched some other breeds(leghorn,australorp,light sussex(i got 2 unexpected buff sussexes) and some brahma crosses(mother AustralorpxSumatra, Father Dark brahma))

Here is the Brahma cross i got (i wonder what color it is...)

 

[Connie123]

What would come from a BSO and a blue partridge? Or a BSO and buff?

 

[Egghead_Jr]

What are you referring to as BSO? The acronym isn't making sense. Are you saying splash partridge?

What you have going on is Silver and Gold. Silver over Gold begets all Silver based pullets S/S. All cockerels are split S/G.

Being you mated to a blue with a black then 50% will be black and 50% will be blue. The Silver chick posted is a pullet and looks to be black. Exactly what you were looking for. The other chick looks blue and likely a cockerel with that much gold showing or was sired by Partridge cock.

If BSO is actually a splash partridge, you say you have one hen, then a Dark Brahma cock, Silver Penciled, over a splash partridge results 100% blue chicks. The breakdown of base color is same as above mating. All pullets will be silver and all cockerels will be split S/G.

The only reason to use the split cockerels for future matings is if you want to produce partridge line. Using one of these over Partridge dam would produce 50% partridge and 50% silver pullets. Cockerels would be 50% split, 50% partridge. Otherwise mate silver pullets back to Dark Brahma sire to produce all Dark Brahma.

 

[Connie123]

What are you referring to as BSO? The acronym isn't making sense. Are you saying splash partridge?

What you have going on is Silver and Gold. Silver over Gold begets all Silver based pullets S/S. All cockerels are split S/G.

Being you mated to a blue with a black then 50% will be black and 50% will be blue. The Silver chick posted is a pullet and looks to be black. Exactly what you were looking for. The other chick looks blue and likely a cockerel with that much gold showing or was sired by Partridge cock.

If BSO is actually a splash partridge, you say you have one hen, then a Dark Brahma cock, Silver Penciled, over a splash partridge results 100% blue chicks. The breakdown of base color is same as above mating. All pullets will be silver and all cockerels will be split S/G.

The only reason to use the split cockerels for future matings is if you want to produce partridge line. Using one of these over Partridge dam would produce 50% partridge and 50% silver pullets. Cockerels would be 50% split, 50% partridge. Otherwise mate silver pullets back to Dark Brahma sire to produce all Dark Brahma.

BSO is Blue Silver Orange.

And of course I have a buff Brahma too - in the likelihood that I can’t tell who exactly laid which egg, I’d like to know what the possibilities are. Or if it would be bad for their patterns?

 

[Egghead_Jr]

Yes a cross to buff would be bad for patterns. Don't do it unless you want a backyard mixed flock of brahma. From posted pics, if these are your birds, it looks as though that is what is going on.

Silver will dilute Gold. Partridge base by standard is mahogany- deep red. Breeding to Silver dilutes Partridge and offspring must be backcrossed to standard Partridge to bring the deep red back into flock.

I'd not use that pullet pictured above for any breeding. The cock is stunning but see a headache attempting to bring anything back to a standard pattern. Unless this off brand color is what you're looking for don't use it.

Blue Silver Orange? Is this term from England? They tend to experiment and perpetuate mistakes. The results can be eye catching but typically are going so far from any standard as to be on the fringe. It's just not my cup of tea.

 

[Connie123]

Yes a cross to buff would be bad for patterns. Don't do it unless you want a backyard mixed flock of brahma. From posted pics, if these are your birds, it looks as though that is what is going on.

Silver will dilute Gold. Partridge base by standard is mahogany- deep red. Breeding to Silver dilutes Partridge and offspring must be backcrossed to standard Partridge to bring the deep red back into flock.

I'd not use that pullet pictured above for any breeding. The cock is stunning but see a headache attempting to bring anything back to a standard pattern. Unless this off brand color is what you're looking for don't use it.

Blue Silver Orange? Is this term from England? They tend to experiment and perpetuate mistakes. The results can be eye catching but typically are going so far from any standard as to be on the fringe. It's just not my cup of tea.

Perfect information. Thank you!

 

[Connie123]

Perfect information. Thank you!
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Yes a cross to buff would be bad for patterns. Don't do it unless you want a backyard mixed flock of brahma. From posted pics, if these are your birds, it looks as though that is what is going on.

Silver will dilute Gold. Partridge base by standard is mahogany- deep red. Breeding to Silver dilutes Partridge and offspring must be backcrossed to standard Partridge to bring the deep red back into flock.

I'd not use that pullet pictured above for any breeding. The cock is stunning but see a headache attempting to bring anything back to a standard pattern. Unless this off brand color is what you're looking for don't use it.

Blue Silver Orange? Is this term from England? They tend to experiment and perpetuate mistakes. The results can be eye catching but typically are going so far from any standard as to be on the fringe. It's just not my cup of tea.

BSO is a European term. We do have a mixed flock - for the eggs. But once we met our Brahmas we were hooked. Theyre so lovely and incredibly sweet. The gentleman we got them from said he wouldn’t recommend breeding these two in the pictures, but a gold partridge would be better. I couldn’t remember why, so you answered my question. Thank you!