Breed Origins Thread

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[Ducks and Banny hens]

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[Ducks and Banny hens]

By the way, what does OP stand for?

 

[Year of the Rooster]

OP means Original Post(er).

Just my two cents - if this thread is going to be about Breed Origins, then it should stay that way, not bringing up Breeds-in-Progress or Soon-to-be-breeds. I'm not putting you down for having mixed breeds or making your own breed. But if the discussion is about Breeds that are recognized by the APA then that's what it should be about, otherwise there is no "history".

Just my opinion....

 

[Ducks and Banny hens]

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Yep you're right. This thread isn't intended to be APA breed-specific, though.

 

[Ducks and Banny hens]

On that note:
Breed Origins: Ixworth
The Cornish-Cross' inspiration.

Well, good old Mr. Appleyard had his own 'perfect' breed of duck (Appleyard post coming soon), so he set out to create a 'perfect' chicken. He began crossing standard OEGs, Cornish, Sussex, Minorca and Orpington. All whites. As a result, he had a white breed (nobody can figure out why

) As a result, he had a fine-white sinned fowl, somewhat gamey-looking, and very heavily muscled. They carry the Y gene which gives them sickly colored legs and beak. True Ixworths are always peacombed.

 

[Year of the Rooster]

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Yep you're right. This thread isn't intended to be APA breed-specific, though.

Sorry, APA was too specific, as there are other breeds in other countries not in the APA. My apologies, but you got my point

 

[speckledhen]

Enough of the flaming the Original Poster, people. If you cannot be polite and get your points across without being downright nasty, please move to another thread. This one may not be for you.

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[DTchickens]

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People always list Leghorn and "Oriental" as the Kraienkoppe history, but really they have far more than that to their heritage

. Here is some info researched/typed up by me with some help from a breeder in the Netherlands as well.

Kraienkoppe
"The Kraienköppe (singular: Kraienkopp), also called the Twentse, is a breed of chicken originating on the border region between Germany and the Netherlands. The latter of the two names is the Dutch language version, while the former is German. Kraienköppe appear in two color varieties: Black-breasted Red and Silver. Males weigh 2.75 - 3.00 kilos (6 pounds), and females weigh 1.8-2.5 kilos (4 pounds). They have yellow skin and a small walnut-type comb, wattles, and ear-lobes.

The Kraienkoppe was developed around 1850 from crosses between Belgium game, Malay, Old English Game and Twents/Drents landfowl and were used for cockfighting. This period the breed was called Biethaon (biting fowl). The name Kraienkoppe comes from their loud crow (' kraaien' in Dutch). When games and exhibition interests became less interesting they decided to increase the egg production by crossing Leghorns into them. Because of this cross the Silver duckwings emerged. It is rare today in countries outside Germany and the Netherlands, and is best known as a layer and a show bird. " (As a note, they appear in Silver and Black Breasted Red commonly, in American you will find Silver, BBred (the BBred's throw Wheaten birds), as well as whites (which can come out of the BBred fowl). In the Netherlands one can find Golden Duckwings, BBred, Silver, White, Blue Red, and Red Pyle. There maybe more, but those are all I've seen and heard of with only the Silver and BBred being recognized.

Brueges Game (variety of Belgium game, there are three specific types, The Brueges and the two crosses Tirlemont and Liege)
"The Brüges game are the oldest of the three Belgium games, dating back to at least 1858 with the breed standard being in 1908. They were developed in Bruges, Belgium, created from Old English Game, Northern Fighter, and Asian gamefowl lines, with Sumatra also contributing to it's creation. The Brüges games were primarily used as a pit fowl in Belgium, and was considered to cockers as a cockers best friend. They also appear in a bantam form. "

Combattant Du Nord (Northern Fighter)
"The Combattant Du Nord is an old breed dating back to around the time of Julius Ceaser, who discovered the fighting cock while invading Gaul. They were bred in Nord-Pas-De-Calais, and originated from Shamo crosses. These birds come in three sizes, The Grand Combattant Du Nord, The Petit Combattant Du Nord, and Combattant Du Nord Nain; which translates into The Great(or large) Northern Fighter, Little Northern Fighter, and Northern Dwarf(bantam) Fighter. "

Taken from the Ultimatefowl Poultry Wikipedia (there is more information as well, but this is the history specifically posted on those breeds).


God bless,
Daniel.

 

[Ducks and Banny hens]

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People always list Leghorn and "Oriental" as the Kraienkoppe history, but really they have far more than that to their heritage

. Here is some info researched/typed up by me with some help from a breeder in the Netherlands as well.

Kraienkoppe
"The Kraienköppe (singular: Kraienkopp), also called the Twentse, is a breed of chicken originating on the border region between Germany and the Netherlands. The latter of the two names is the Dutch language version, while the former is German. Kraienköppe appear in two color varieties: Black-breasted Red and Silver. Males weigh 2.75 - 3.00 kilos (6 pounds), and females weigh 1.8-2.5 kilos (4 pounds). They have yellow skin and a small walnut-type comb, wattles, and ear-lobes.

The Kraienkoppe was developed around 1850 from crosses between Belgium game, Malay, Old English Game and Twents/Drents landfowl and were used for cockfighting. This period the breed was called Biethaon (biting fowl). The name Kraienkoppe comes from their loud crow (' kraaien' in Dutch). When games and exhibition interests became less interesting they decided to increase the egg production by crossing Leghorns into them. Because of this cross the Silver duckwings emerged. It is rare today in countries outside Germany and the Netherlands, and is best known as a layer and a show bird. " (As a note, they appear in Silver and Black Breasted Red commonly, in American you will find Silver, BBred (the BBred's throw Wheaten birds), as well as whites (which can come out of the BBred fowl). In the Netherlands one can find Golden Duckwings, BBred, Silver, White, Blue Red, and Red Pyle. There maybe more, but those are all I've seen and heard of with only the Silver and BBred being recognized.

Brueges Game (variety of Belgium game, there are three specific types, The Brueges and the two crosses Tirlemont and Liege)
"The Brüges game are the oldest of the three Belgium games, dating back to at least 1858 with the breed standard being in 1908. They were developed in Bruges, Belgium, created from Old English Game, Northern Fighter, and Asian gamefowl lines, with Sumatra also contributing to it's creation. The Brüges games were primarily used as a pit fowl in Belgium, and was considered to cockers as a cockers best friend. They also appear in a bantam form. "

Combattant Du Nord (Northern Fighter)
"The Combattant Du Nord is an old breed dating back to around the time of Julius Ceaser, who discovered the fighting cock while invading Gaul. They were bred in Nord-Pas-De-Calais, and originated from Shamo crosses. These birds come in three sizes, The Grand Combattant Du Nord, The Petit Combattant Du Nord, and Combattant Du Nord Nain; which translates into The Great(or large) Northern Fighter, Little Northern Fighter, and Northern Dwarf(bantam) Fighter. "

Taken from the Ultimatefowl Poultry Wikipedia (there is more information as well, but this is the history specifically posted on those breeds).


God bless,
Daniel.

{impressed whistle}
Thanks

Banny